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Is there any way you ever make $320m back by selling a better performance version of teamviewer/remote desktop? Or is there some other play here - e.g. a Stadia

by m12k 5y ago

Is there any way you ever make $320m back by selling a better performance version of teamviewer/remote desktop? Or is there some other play here - e.g. a Stadia/GeForce Now competitor?

marc__1 5y ago
Unity can always cross-sell their services from the press release "Parsec has become a go-to solution for hybrid work models among gaming companies such as Electronic Arts, Ubisoft and Square Enix and is integrated in many of the industry verticals where Unity sells solutions, including media and entertainment, architecture and design, and more. Together, Unity sees an opportunity to drive shared momentum with these customers through targeted cross-selling and bundled solutions."
moomin 5y ago
Let me rephrase your question: can they sell three thousand more enterprise license seats by bundling this in? Because they’ll have made it back in a couple of years if they do.
- jayd16 5y ago
  An enterprise seat is $2400 a year per seat, no? At 3000 seats, isn't it closer to 40-50 years?
  - moomin 5y ago
    sigh You’re right, my back of the envelope dropped a zero so yeah their plans had better be a tad more ambitious.
mrkramer 5y ago
When Teamviewer was at its peak it was worth at least $100m, now I'm not so sure it got displaced by other competitors probably. Edit: Somehow they got $460m revenue. Voila for Remote Desktop app. I would never thought they can make half a billion of dollars in revenue.
- zibzab 5y ago
  Revenue increased probably because of the hack, because that seems to be how it works in this twisted world. (i am looking at you Zoom)
  - mrkramer 5y ago
    Yea I heard TeamViewer is insecure. And average internet users don't care about privacy. More than 2 billion people using Facebook confirms my hypothesis.
    - thunderbox_ 5y ago
      Would like to know more about its security breaches. Really hard to find anything. I suspect that they've scrubbed a lot of the bed press off of google and the internet in general.
chewmieser 5y ago
Microsoft's Game Pass xcloud service for iOS leverages Rainway, a competitor to Parsec. As a user of both I can say that Parsec outperforms Rainway although Rainway works in the browser. Seems like Unity is looking to build a similar stack with Parsec at the helm, but I guess we'll see...
- CryptoBanker 5y ago
  Parsec also works in a browser and quite well I might add. I get very similar performance between their web and desktop clients
  - girvo 5y ago
    I've found the Desktop client lower latency and more stable, but not by a huge amount
  - chewmieser 5y ago
    Thanks for letting me know about this, I did not realize. It does not seem to work on iOS devices but they do seem to have browser support!
bogwog 5y ago
Seems like Parsec is being sold to game developers as a remote work/collaboration tool. That's on obvious fit for Unity, which already sells commercial collaboration products/services (https://unity.com/products/unity-teams https://unity.com/products/unity-teams). Idk if they'll get into game streaming, but for their existing business it makes a lot of sense already.

by m12k 5y ago

Is there any way you ever make $320m back by selling a better performance version of teamviewer/remote desktop? Or is there some other play here - e.g. a Stadia/GeForce Now competitor?

marc__1 5y ago

Unity can always cross-sell their services from the press release "Parsec has become a go-to solution for hybrid work models among gaming companies such as Electronic Arts, Ubisoft and Square Enix and is integrated in many of the industry verticals where Unity sells solutions, including media and entertainment, architecture and design, and more. Together, Unity sees an opportunity to drive shared momentum with these customers through targeted cross-selling and bundled solutions."

moomin 5y ago

Let me rephrase your question: can they sell three thousand more enterprise license seats by bundling this in? Because they’ll have made it back in a couple of years if they do.

jayd16 5y ago
An enterprise seat is $2400 a year per seat, no? At 3000 seats, isn't it closer to 40-50 years?
- moomin 5y ago
  sigh You’re right, my back of the envelope dropped a zero so yeah their plans had better be a tad more ambitious.

mrkramer 5y ago

When Teamviewer was at its peak it was worth at least $100m, now I'm not so sure it got displaced by other competitors probably. Edit: Somehow they got $460m revenue. Voila for Remote Desktop app. I would never thought they can make half a billion of dollars in revenue.

zibzab 5y ago
Revenue increased probably because of the hack, because that seems to be how it works in this twisted world. (i am looking at you Zoom)
- mrkramer 5y ago
  Yea I heard TeamViewer is insecure. And average internet users don't care about privacy. More than 2 billion people using Facebook confirms my hypothesis.
  - thunderbox_ 5y ago
    Would like to know more about its security breaches. Really hard to find anything. I suspect that they've scrubbed a lot of the bed press off of google and the internet in general.

chewmieser 5y ago

Microsoft's Game Pass xcloud service for iOS leverages Rainway, a competitor to Parsec. As a user of both I can say that Parsec outperforms Rainway although Rainway works in the browser. Seems like Unity is looking to build a similar stack with Parsec at the helm, but I guess we'll see...

CryptoBanker 5y ago
Parsec also works in a browser and quite well I might add. I get very similar performance between their web and desktop clients
- girvo 5y ago
  I've found the Desktop client lower latency and more stable, but not by a huge amount
- chewmieser 5y ago
  Thanks for letting me know about this, I did not realize. It does not seem to work on iOS devices but they do seem to have browser support!

bogwog 5y ago

Seems like Parsec is being sold to game developers as a remote work/collaboration tool. That's on obvious fit for Unity, which already sells commercial collaboration products/services (https://unity.com/products/unity-teams https://unity.com/products/unity-teams). Idk if they'll get into game streaming, but for their existing business it makes a lot of sense already.