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Why are you being defending a position that has clearly upset a number of people, instead of engaging in a debate? This is why so many minorities don't speak up

by marquis 15y ago

Why are you being defending a position that has clearly upset a number of people, instead of engaging in a debate? This is why so many minorities don't speak up: because we aren't listened to. Time and time again, the majority will defend the status-quo, it's perceived rightful position to impose its will. This entire thread could have simply been: - This makes me feel as if woman are objectified in computing as sexual entities before any other consideration. - I'm sorry you feel that way, what is it about the image in this context that bothers you? - My reply - You reply

dpark 15y ago
> Why are you being defending a position that has clearly upset a number of people, instead of engaging in a debate? I am engaging in a debate. That's what it is when we hold opposing viewpoints and discuss them. It would not be a debate if I simply failed to defend my views. It would just be me surrendering to your opinion. I might just as well ask why you're defending a position that so many clearly disagree with. > This is why so many minorities don't speak up: because we aren't listened to. Time and time again, the majority will defend the status-quo, it's perceived rightful position to impose its will. Very clearly people are listening to you. I am listening. Listening does not require agreement. If you want to debate, then don't accuse others of not listening just because they don't simply bow to your views. > This entire thread could have simply been:- This makes me feel as if woman are objectified in computing as sexual entities before any other consideration.... That's hardly how you started the thread. You began with sarcasm and went straight to accusations of misogyny and then acted as if all the women posting were similarly offended. I have asked why you were offended. In response you compared the image to human trafficking and a culture of forced prostitution. Edit: Dropped the reference to child prostitution because that's apparently not the comparison you were trying to make.

by marquis 15y ago

dpark 15y ago

> Why are you being defending a position that has clearly upset a number of people, instead of engaging in a debate? I am engaging in a debate. That's what it is when we hold opposing viewpoints and discuss them. It would not be a debate if I simply failed to defend my views. It would just be me surrendering to your opinion. I might just as well ask why you're defending a position that so many clearly disagree with. > This is why so many minorities don't speak up: because we aren't listened to. Time and time again, the majority will defend the status-quo, it's perceived rightful position to impose its will. Very clearly people are listening to you. I am listening. Listening does not require agreement. If you want to debate, then don't accuse others of not listening just because they don't simply bow to your views. > This entire thread could have simply been:- This makes me feel as if woman are objectified in computing as sexual entities before any other consideration.... That's hardly how you started the thread. You began with sarcasm and went straight to accusations of misogyny and then acted as if all the women posting were similarly offended. I have asked why you were offended. In response you compared the image to human trafficking and a culture of forced prostitution. Edit: Dropped the reference to child prostitution because that's apparently not the comparison you were trying to make.