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> The Genesis story is Jewish, and predates Christianity by at least five if not ten centuries. And most importantly, early Christians were Jews first. Just th

> The Genesis story is Jewish, and predates Christianity by at least five if not ten centuries. And most importantly, early Christians were Jews first. Just thought this contradiction was amusing.

cratermoon 5y ago
How so? Jesus and the apostles, or any historical figures which they inspired, didn't think of themselves as "Christian", nor did they even imagine they were creating a new religion. They were Jews who didn't toe the Second Temple Judaism line.
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  According to the Bible, Christians started using the word Christian to describe themselves while the Apostles were alive (Acts 11:26). Prior to this they generally would refer to themselves as followers of The Way. The idea that they didn't think of themselves as Christian is incorrect.
- Minor49er 5y ago
  I posted in a sibling response, but basically, you are correct. Jesus and the apostles were not out to create "Christianity". They believe that they were Jews who were following the messiah outlined by the Jewish scriptures. I just found that the notion "X predates this group, but also this group was that same group anyways" was funny, despite being a bit pedantic.
pulse7 5y ago
There is no contradiction here: Jews (descendants of Judah, son of Jacob=Israel) were living at least 15 centuries before Jesus Christ. Jesus was also a Jew and his first followers were also Jews, later non-Jews (=pegans) joined the "movement"...
- Minor49er 5y ago
  Many Christian denominations believe that they are the "true Jews" because they have followed Jesus who was fulfilling scriptural prophecy. Since the divergence, Christians have adopted the books of the New Testament as part of their sacred scripture. Meanwhile, Jews (that is, modern Jews, not the Judeans that have been translated as "Jews") have adopted the books of the Talmud. Saying that one is older than the other is like saying that homo sapiens are homininae that are older than gorillas because the names are similar when that's simply where both began.
  - pulse7 5y ago
    Galatians 3:29: "And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise."
    - Minor49er 5y ago
      And just before that: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Jews were originally God's chosen people, but since the coming of Jesus, which fulfilled their scripture, the rules changed to make the faithful God's chosen instead

> The Genesis story is Jewish, and predates Christianity by at least five if not ten centuries. And most importantly, early Christians were Jews first. Just thought this contradiction was amusing.

cratermoon 5y ago

How so? Jesus and the apostles, or any historical figures which they inspired, didn't think of themselves as "Christian", nor did they even imagine they were creating a new religion. They were Jews who didn't toe the Second Temple Judaism line.

_-david-_ 5y ago
According to the Bible, Christians started using the word Christian to describe themselves while the Apostles were alive (Acts 11:26). Prior to this they generally would refer to themselves as followers of The Way. The idea that they didn't think of themselves as Christian is incorrect.
Minor49er 5y ago
I posted in a sibling response, but basically, you are correct. Jesus and the apostles were not out to create "Christianity". They believe that they were Jews who were following the messiah outlined by the Jewish scriptures. I just found that the notion "X predates this group, but also this group was that same group anyways" was funny, despite being a bit pedantic.

pulse7 5y ago

There is no contradiction here: Jews (descendants of Judah, son of Jacob=Israel) were living at least 15 centuries before Jesus Christ. Jesus was also a Jew and his first followers were also Jews, later non-Jews (=pegans) joined the "movement"...

Minor49er 5y ago
Many Christian denominations believe that they are the "true Jews" because they have followed Jesus who was fulfilling scriptural prophecy. Since the divergence, Christians have adopted the books of the New Testament as part of their sacred scripture. Meanwhile, Jews (that is, modern Jews, not the Judeans that have been translated as "Jews") have adopted the books of the Talmud. Saying that one is older than the other is like saying that homo sapiens are homininae that are older than gorillas because the names are similar when that's simply where both began.
- pulse7 5y ago
  Galatians 3:29: "And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise."
  - Minor49er 5y ago
    And just before that: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Jews were originally God's chosen people, but since the coming of Jesus, which fulfilled their scripture, the rules changed to make the faithful God's chosen instead