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I’ve long been thinking about how things like this are in the Bible: > They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a whe

I’ve long been thinking about how things like this are in the Bible: > They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel ... Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around. — Ezekiel 1:15 And I’ve been thinking, that these kinds of things could have their explanation in people having ingested plants or been stung by insects or something, that altered their perceptions of reality. Or even maybe just hallucinating because of hunger, or from having been born with a brain that was producing these types of hallucinations on its own.

cratermoon 5y ago
You mean the Ophanim? Be not afraid, my child. https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/878/385/a57.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/878/385/a57...
- codetrotter 5y ago
  Yup, that’s the one they talk about in Ezekiel 1:15 quoted above. And there are others too.
runawaybottle 5y ago
Dear friend, they were simply drinking. You don’t need hallucinogenics to ramble with ecstasy, just a few drinks.
LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
Or they experienced an out-of-context problem. Saw something which didn't fit into what they knew. Yes, I really do mean ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS, or something like that. Imagine someone from pre-industrial society. No matter where. And then something is touching down from the heavens above. Like some big fucking rocket. Or some tilt-rotor thingy. Or something with Ion-drive. Unloading a remote controlled all terrain rover with really strange wheels. How to describe something for which you have no concept of understanding it at all?
- HideousKojima 5y ago
  >Or they experienced an out-of-context problem. Saw something which didn't fit into what they knew. While I don't think aliens are responsible for the Bible, something along what you've said here is a good explanation for the burning bush Moses saw, even from a believer's perspective. Specifically, before modern times the only common sources of light were the sun and fire. If an ancient person saw something emitting light the only points of reference they would have to compare it to would be the sun, a campfire, a torch, a lamp, or something to that effect. So if light was coming out of a bush they would assume it was on fire, and the fact that it wasn't being consumed would be a reason to marvel at it (like Moses did in Exodus 3).

cratermoon 5y ago

You mean the Ophanim? Be not afraid, my child. https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/878/385/a57.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/878/385/a57...

codetrotter 5y ago
Yup, that’s the one they talk about in Ezekiel 1:15 quoted above. And there are others too.

runawaybottle 5y ago

Dear friend, they were simply drinking. You don’t need hallucinogenics to ramble with ecstasy, just a few drinks.

LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago

Or they experienced an out-of-context problem. Saw something which didn't fit into what they knew. Yes, I really do mean ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS, or something like that. Imagine someone from pre-industrial society. No matter where. And then something is touching down from the heavens above. Like some big fucking rocket. Or some tilt-rotor thingy. Or something with Ion-drive. Unloading a remote controlled all terrain rover with really strange wheels. How to describe something for which you have no concept of understanding it at all?

HideousKojima 5y ago
>Or they experienced an out-of-context problem. Saw something which didn't fit into what they knew. While I don't think aliens are responsible for the Bible, something along what you've said here is a good explanation for the burning bush Moses saw, even from a believer's perspective. Specifically, before modern times the only common sources of light were the sun and fire. If an ancient person saw something emitting light the only points of reference they would have to compare it to would be the sun, a campfire, a torch, a lamp, or something to that effect. So if light was coming out of a bush they would assume it was on fire, and the fact that it wasn't being consumed would be a reason to marvel at it (like Moses did in Exodus 3).