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If there were two identical 300-mile-range cars on the market, one had a 1000-cycle-life and the other a 600-cycle-life, I'd take whichever was cheaper as long
by SECProto 5y ago
If there were two identical 300-mile-range cars on the market, one had a 1000-cycle-life and the other a 600-cycle-life, I'd take whichever was cheaper as long as the price difference was more than say $2000.
And if one of them had physical temperature knobs and a small centre screen, id choose it regardless of the price difference.
- Retric 5y agoI agree, the point of comparison is a 600 mile car at 600 cycles is strictly better than a 300 mile car with 1,000 cycles.
- brianwawok 5y agoRight, but you would never get this choice. Maybe350 miles with 600 cycles vs 300 miles w 1000 cycles...
- ZeroGravitas 5y agoAnother dimension is weight, if price per kwh was identical these batteries would be be more efficient by making the car lighter. As well as efficiency and handling this presumably also affects the degredation per mile driven since you're discharging less energy to move the smaller battery.
- SECProto 5y agoTrue, and tires - either smaller (cheaper) tires or longer lifespan of those tires.
- mrfusion 5y agoMy dream car is a dumb electric car. Minimal internal computers to function. Battery management. And then no computers, no updates, no screens.
- colinmhayes 5y agoMy ideal car is this but also self driving which complicates matters a bit.
- Jeff_Brown 5y agoDumb self+driving cars already exist! (It's just the wrong kind of dumb.)
- p1mrx 5y agoA dumb car should at least have Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Backup cameras are mandatory, so you might as well do something useful with the screen.
- SECProto 5y agoWhy are backup cameras mandatory? I don't want that either. Make it a standard DIN radio slot and you can put in whatever stereo you want - and upgrade it in 5 years when your car still works great but the Bluetooth standard has changed.
- Robotbeat 5y agoBecause mirrors can’t tell if you have a child sitting by your bumper. There are several safety justifications for electronics in new cars. ABS, airbags, seatbelt pretensioner, auto-braking, and arguably lane keeping. (Not to mention battery management system, traction control, etc.) Also, vehicle-state-aware and charging-station-state-aware navigation with auto-routing to Fast Charging is a massively beneficial feature for electric cars. Before I got my used Model S (2013, BTW), I had no idea how important this would be in eliminating range anxiety and enabling road trips.
- zamfi 5y agoLegally mandatory. Because too many people (often kids!) have been killed or injured by inattentive drivers who back up without looking behind their cars.
- White_Wolf 5y agoI'm looking at like this: Max speed limit (in UK) is 70mph. 300 miles battery is 4h 4h is the maximum reccomended to drive without a break. I'd say 300 miles is just about right in terms of distance to force those like me to take a 30 min break. Edit: I'd go for cheaper at this stage. Also as low tech as possible.
- brianwawok 5y agoDo you own a BEV though? At 70mph, your 300 mile range car is getting maybe 250-270, if it's 21C out. if it is colder or hotter, range does drop a bit to a lot. Dead of winter can get more like 150-175 miles range. Then on top of it, for road trips, you often use the battery from 10-60. Combine those two things, and your dead of winter BEV is needing to stop like every 100 miles. But, thats like 5% of trips. most of the time this is vast overkill.
- tromp 5y agoAnd if one had a steering wheel and the other a j^Hyoke, then I'd choose the former.
- jsight 5y ago> And if one of them had physical temperature knobs and a small centre screen, id choose it regardless of the price difference. Get a Mach-E. It has physical controls! Oh, wait, its just a volume knob. I don't know why noone uses physical controls for basic climate in EVs. Its the strangest thing to virtualize, IMO.
- dwelch91 5y agoNiro EV has physical controls for climate, radio, etc.