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How can you prove that this will always be the case? For now that’s the way things are done but it’s a slippery slope. I don’t want anything of mine to be scan

How can you prove that this will always be the case? For now that’s the way things are done but it’s a slippery slope. I don’t want anything of mine to be scanned but these days it’s fair to assume that anything that is not self hosted is not private.

GeekyBear 5y ago
> How can you prove that this will always be the case? How can you prove that Google isn't intentionally turning in a huge number of unnecessary false positives because of their well known aversion to hiring human beings when flawed machine learning models are cheaper?
- CTDOCodebases 5y ago
  Easily. Currently I have a choice to not use their services and I exercise that choice. I don't trust Google and I don't trust Apple. Apple can perform the same process on their iCloud servers but choose not to. The way they are approaching the problem speeds up the erosion of privacy. In other words I reject the false dichotomy you are presenting.
  - GeekyBear 5y ago
    I reject Google spying on everything you do, including buying a copy of your credit card transaction records so they can spy on everything you do in the real world, just as they already spy on everything you do online. >Google has been able to track your location using Google Maps for a long time. Since 2014, it has used that information to provide advertisers with information on how often people visit their stores. But store visits aren’t purchases, so, as Google said in a blog post on its new service for marketers, it has partnered with “third parties” that give them access to 70 percent of all credit and debit card purchases. https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/05/25/242717/google-now-tracks-your-credit-card-purchases-and-connects-them-to-its-online-profile-of-you/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/05/25/242717/google-no...

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How can you prove that this will always be the case? For now that’s the way things are done but it’s a slippery slope. I don’t want anything of mine to be scan

by CTDOCodebases 5y ago

GeekyBear 5y ago
> How can you prove that this will always be the case? How can you prove that Google isn't intentionally turning in a huge number of unnecessary false positives because of their well known aversion to hiring human beings when flawed machine learning models are cheaper?
- CTDOCodebases 5y ago
  Easily. Currently I have a choice to not use their services and I exercise that choice. I don't trust Google and I don't trust Apple. Apple can perform the same process on their iCloud servers but choose not to. The way they are approaching the problem speeds up the erosion of privacy. In other words I reject the false dichotomy you are presenting.
  - GeekyBear 5y ago
    I reject Google spying on everything you do, including buying a copy of your credit card transaction records so they can spy on everything you do in the real world, just as they already spy on everything you do online. >Google has been able to track your location using Google Maps for a long time. Since 2014, it has used that information to provide advertisers with information on how often people visit their stores. But store visits aren’t purchases, so, as Google said in a blog post on its new service for marketers, it has partnered with “third parties” that give them access to 70 percent of all credit and debit card purchases. https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/05/25/242717/google-now-tracks-your-credit-card-purchases-and-connects-them-to-its-online-profile-of-you/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2017/05/25/242717/google-no...