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Google rolls out ‘pay calculator’ explaining work-from-home salary cuts

9 points by koolba 5y ago

colesantiago 5y ago
Imagine grinding for a year on leetcode to go to FAANG and this salary cut happens, or promised a salary rise after 2 years but instead gets cut. Feels like a complete scam.
joshstrange 5y ago
If anything companies should be paying people MORE to work from home especially if they aren't providing equivalent hardware (multiple monitors/etc). The cost of space/facilities/utilities/etc are now handled by the worker and not the employer. The fact they want to instead pay these people less is really gross.
- mamaluigie 5y ago
  This is very true. The office at the location that I currently am based in for my company includes a courtyard with pond for breaks, an onsite massage therapist, food court with good food, workout gym, and other things... If I am not getting to use these extra provided perks I am expecting for my company to make up for that by paying me a portion of what they were spending on all of those in person perks.
greenyoda 5y ago
Big discussion, currently on front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28127240 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28127240
nonameiguess 5y ago
This issue needs to be re-framed. Google has always made pay adjusted based on cost-of-living. This isn't a change in that sense and it has nothing to do with working from home. If you relocate to an office with a lower cost-of-living index, you'll still get your pay cut. The actual change here is they suspended the policy for people forced to work from home during the Covid pandemic, and are now ending that, so if you choose to continue working from home, you now get the home rate, not your office rate. Note that isn't necessarily lower, so this only results in a pay cut if you live in a place cheaper than your home office or chose to move to such a place since the pandemic started.
Irongirl1 5y ago
Mind another perspective? Google has-from what I understand-absolutely excellent health insurance, 401K match etc. In today's inflationary environment those things are worth more than the $$$. So no worries. The "perks" are only perks if you actually wanted/use them. But if your "perk" is not having to drive in hellish traffic or take public transport for two hours to get to work after waking at some ungodly hour, then I'd say you just landed in clover. Your tax bill just went down...and if you use a competent CPA/Enrolled Agent, the office space, supplies etc that you need to do your work are a tax deduction. As an aside, Dear Google, I'm not the least bit techie, but I'd love to sit in my house covered by your great benefits any day...bonus, I'm not whiny. /jk

9 points by koolba 5y ago

Imagine grinding for a year on leetcode to go to FAANG and this salary cut happens, or promised a salary rise after 2 years but instead gets cut. Feels like a complete scam.

joshstrange 5y ago

If anything companies should be paying people MORE to work from home especially if they aren't providing equivalent hardware (multiple monitors/etc). The cost of space/facilities/utilities/etc are now handled by the worker and not the employer. The fact they want to instead pay these people less is really gross.

mamaluigie 5y ago
This is very true. The office at the location that I currently am based in for my company includes a courtyard with pond for breaks, an onsite massage therapist, food court with good food, workout gym, and other things... If I am not getting to use these extra provided perks I am expecting for my company to make up for that by paying me a portion of what they were spending on all of those in person perks.

greenyoda 5y ago

Big discussion, currently on front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28127240 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28127240

nonameiguess 5y ago

This issue needs to be re-framed. Google has always made pay adjusted based on cost-of-living. This isn't a change in that sense and it has nothing to do with working from home. If you relocate to an office with a lower cost-of-living index, you'll still get your pay cut. The actual change here is they suspended the policy for people forced to work from home during the Covid pandemic, and are now ending that, so if you choose to continue working from home, you now get the home rate, not your office rate. Note that isn't necessarily lower, so this only results in a pay cut if you live in a place cheaper than your home office or chose to move to such a place since the pandemic started.

Irongirl1 5y ago

Mind another perspective? Google has-from what I understand-absolutely excellent health insurance, 401K match etc. In today's inflationary environment those things are worth more than the $$$. So no worries. The "perks" are only perks if you actually wanted/use them. But if your "perk" is not having to drive in hellish traffic or take public transport for two hours to get to work after waking at some ungodly hour, then I'd say you just landed in clover. Your tax bill just went down...and if you use a competent CPA/Enrolled Agent, the office space, supplies etc that you need to do your work are a tax deduction. As an aside, Dear Google, I'm not the least bit techie, but I'd love to sit in my house covered by your great benefits any day...bonus, I'm not whiny. /jk