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Activist raided by police after downloading 'confidential' meeting from Google

56 points by DocFeind 5y ago

vmception 5y ago
iOS 15's privaterelay can't come quick enough! I hate having to remember to turn on VPN for things (not for actually having zero trace, just a remote enough trace to discourage lazy municipal police from responding to a server admin's complaint), and I wouldn't have turned on VPN or used Tor for this
- LatteLazy 5y ago
  It wont help when Apple themselves have your machine check itself for unauthorised content and report you.
  - marcellus23 5y ago
    Oh, when will they start doing that? Because that’s not what the CSAM checking is doing if that’s what you’re talking about.
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - LatteLazy 5y ago
      Isn't it? Honestly asking. Apple are having peoples handsets check file hashes against a hash list and reporting anyone who has files with hashes on the list right? And there is a threshold of matches below which you dont get reported. Above that they lock your account. The fact they're currently limiting it to image files and the US doesn't seem like much of a difference. Am i missing some clever defence against misuse.
- jka 5y ago
  An individual technical measure for users wouldn't necessarily prevent, for example, sketchy co-operation between private interests and law enforcement when it appears to benefit both of them (regardless of whether any situation in question was searchable on the public web).
crimsoneer 5y ago
He wasn't "raided", he was arrested. A company believed he committed an offence, police arrest you to investigate to ensure they can secure the digital evidence. That's how the UK legal system works.
- trasz 5y ago
  He was arrested over downloading public information. That’s not how any legal system should work.
- fuckchina 5y ago
  I don't see much of a difference over here, yet according to the article, it seemed like CBS are just being an a*hole by blaming either their or Google's fault on that poor dude.
- nonfamous 5y ago
  Furthermore, no charges were filed: >> "He was taken into custody and later released under investigation. Following a review of all available evidence, it was determined no offences had been committed and no further action was taken."
literallyaduck 5y ago
Looks like the act is being misused appropriately.

56 points by DocFeind 5y ago

iOS 15's privaterelay can't come quick enough! I hate having to remember to turn on VPN for things (not for actually having zero trace, just a remote enough trace to discourage lazy municipal police from responding to a server admin's complaint), and I wouldn't have turned on VPN or used Tor for this

LatteLazy 5y ago
It wont help when Apple themselves have your machine check itself for unauthorised content and report you.
- marcellus23 5y ago
  Oh, when will they start doing that? Because that’s not what the CSAM checking is doing if that’s what you’re talking about.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - LatteLazy 5y ago
    Isn't it? Honestly asking. Apple are having peoples handsets check file hashes against a hash list and reporting anyone who has files with hashes on the list right? And there is a threshold of matches below which you dont get reported. Above that they lock your account. The fact they're currently limiting it to image files and the US doesn't seem like much of a difference. Am i missing some clever defence against misuse.
jka 5y ago
An individual technical measure for users wouldn't necessarily prevent, for example, sketchy co-operation between private interests and law enforcement when it appears to benefit both of them (regardless of whether any situation in question was searchable on the public web).

crimsoneer 5y ago

He wasn't "raided", he was arrested. A company believed he committed an offence, police arrest you to investigate to ensure they can secure the digital evidence. That's how the UK legal system works.

trasz 5y ago
He was arrested over downloading public information. That’s not how any legal system should work.
fuckchina 5y ago
I don't see much of a difference over here, yet according to the article, it seemed like CBS are just being an a*hole by blaming either their or Google's fault on that poor dude.
nonfamous 5y ago
Furthermore, no charges were filed: >> "He was taken into custody and later released under investigation. Following a review of all available evidence, it was determined no offences had been committed and no further action was taken."

literallyaduck 5y ago

Looks like the act is being misused appropriately.