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I stopped using stock Android and went back to iPhones because I thought Apple cares more about privacy than Google does. Not exactly correct in all cases I kno
by beshrkayali 5y ago
I stopped using stock Android and went back to iPhones because I thought Apple cares more about privacy than Google does. Not exactly correct in all cases I know (ie. they both suck in terms of privacy), but it seemed like Apple users are buying in, so it might work.
Now I think my next mobile OS is going to be GrapheneOS.
Like others have mentioned, this is as big of a warning as anyone's going to get to get out of that locked-in ecosystem. On that note, the outrage is kind of useless if you don't skip buying the next iPhone. You should fully own what you fully pay for.
- Maxburn 5y agoHail to Graphene being the official No Agenda Phone https://noagendaphone.com https://noagendaphone.com
- tbihl 5y agoWhy disable 5G? I was following everything until that point, but I'm not sure the reason for that choice.
- dimitrios1 5y agoI am curious as well. My guesses are a. 5G allows for metadata collection points b. 5G chips are much more expensive because of patents
- Maxburn 5y agoMe too. A; maybe, I'm not sure what extra that does above LTE. B; I guess you could get a different phone that doesn't have it, for a little while longer.
- Maxburn 5y agoI'm not sure myself, I just know they push Graphene pretty heavily on the No Agenda show.
- da_big_ghey 5y agoprobably no reason for 5g, expensive and most people have small need for this, 4g already very fast. phone data limited, expensive, even if on unlimited plan it slow down with much use, so no point in faster connection. have high cost for any modem and not yet even available in most location.
- eezing 5y agoA phone with no agenda sounds like a phone with an agenda.
- Maxburn 5y agoA; absolutely B; It's actually a reference to the No Agenda show. https://noagendashow.net https://noagendashow.net
- juniperplant 5y agoGrapheneOS sucks for normies, first of all because it lacks GApps, which is essential for many popular apps nowadays. One example to rule them all? Most banking apps refuse to start if you don't have GApps (i.e. SafetyNet). And no, microG does not count as solution. Why banking apps as example? Because in the EU they are required after the PSD2 directive mandated "strong" auth requirements.
- uhtred 5y agoI'm amazed that banking apps are the make or break example for so many people when choosing a non-apple/non-google mobile OS. How much banking is everyone doing on-the-go?! Just use the website! Use the mobile website if you must!
- juniperplant 5y agoMaybe you did not read my last paragraph?
- uhtred 5y agoso you can't login to a bank website in the EU without having their app on your phone? WTF. Really? When did that happen? I know UK isn't in the EU anymore, but NatWest (UK bank) doesn't need me to have an app -- I can get an sms code.
- juniperplant 5y agoNo, but (at least in my country) most banks have used the PSD2 directive as a way to phase out HW tokens and force their proprietary apps to customers. But PSD2 does not really say this is required to comply. The only alternative they offer is SMS-based 2FA which, unsurprisingly, often has an additional cost.
- depaulagu 5y agoAll the banks I use (in brazil), either only have mobile app to access the bank, or they require the bank's app to use the site (the app generates a 2FA token, you can't use a third-party 2fa manager like authy).
- encryptluks2 5y agoDon't you think though that trusting a company based on what they say is less reliable than trusting a company based on what they do. Apple is a closed ecosystem, therefore you have only been able to trust what they say and not what they do.