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Samsung sees 300% growth in smartphone market share

28 points by alvivar 15y ago

nextparadigms 15y ago
Samsung will soon be the new phone/smartphone king, to replace Nokia. Apple might take the smartphone king place for a quarter or two, but they can't compete with Samsung in sheer numbers, because Samsung is also making $150 smartphones, which appeal to a lot of people because of the price point. The new Galaxy S2 seems to to give the iPhone a run for its money, too.
- kungfooey 15y ago
  It's a short-term gain. As a Galaxy S1 owner, I've been burnt by the "nice hardware, no ongoing software support" issue and I probably will not invest any of my hard-earned money in Samsung products in the future. As a tech-influencer of friends and family, when asked for advice about the Samsung phones, I always recommend against them. I've noted other users express similar concerns, which leads me to believe they've sacrificed long-term consumer loyalty to short-term growth.
  - josefresco 15y ago
    Expand further on your claim of "no ongoing software support" please.
    - CrazedGeek 15y ago
      I was personally burned by the Moment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_SPH-M900#Controversy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_SPH-M900#Controversy It got a single major update (from Android 1.5 to 2.1). Which was delayed from three months after the phone came out to seven. And software support stopped immediately after said update. Compare that to the HTC Evo, which just recently got an update to 2.3, over a year after the phone was released. EDIT: I should also mention that the phone and its drivers were incredibly buggy, even after the 2.1 update. The GPS was the worst- the only way anyone even got it working long-term was to port over a driver from the Intercept.
      - ZoFreX 15y ago
        Just be glad you didn't pick a Motorola Milestone.
        CrazedGeek 15y ago
        Out of curiosity, why? Wikipedia mentions a constantly-delayed 2.2 update, but from what I've heard, the Droid/Milestone is a very good phone, updates or not.
        ZoFreX 15y ago
        In the UK I'm extra-unfortunate as no carrier picked it up, so we were all scratching our heads as the update got delayed for months for "carrier testing". The update made an absolutely huge difference, living without it was painful and apart from the huge delay, Motorola's handling of the situation was just terrible, their interactions with customers and the information they were giving out was all just very badly managed.
        CrazedGeek 15y ago
        Eek, that's pretty bad. At least I had both Sprint and Samsung to bitch at.
  - rednaught 15y ago
    Google recognizes this problem and is attempting to get vendors onboard with an 18 month commitment for updates(http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/ http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-d...) . On the other hand, the hardware vendors prefer you buy a new handset every year. How many vendors will agree to long term updates is anybody's guess. I'm no fan of Apple but this is where their controlled line of hardware definitely helps updates/support.
    - ZoFreX 15y ago
      You'd be hard pushed to find a smartphone contract (for the likes of the iPhone and SII, anyway) on the high street that isn't 18 or even 24 months, in the UK at least. If Samsung think they can have a 12 month turn-around on their high-end models, they're lying to themselves, and if their business model depends on a 12-month turnaround, they're in trouble.
- alanfalcon 15y ago
  I have little doubt that Apple is working to compete at additional price points moving forward, so I'd definitely hold off on crowning anyone king until they actually earn it.
- ugh 15y ago
  Nice prediction that may well become true … but there is no reason to believe that Apple won’t sell $150 smartphones. Apple is willing to be competitive on price – from time to time. I think the market will stay crowded with no clear king (but Samsung and Apple certainly as two big players). Yet I honestly don’t know. I think it’s currently very hard to predict anything in the mobile space.
  - nextparadigms 15y ago
    I really doubt they will do it in the same time with Android manufacturers. The high-end iPhone is like $600. The rumors say they will release a $350 iPhone model, too. They won't go to $150 until 2-3 years from now, if ever. In the mean time Android phones will probably reach $50-$70, and once again will be selling more in volume.
- olihb 15y ago
  I just got a Galaxy S2 and it's a really good phone. I've shown it to iPhone users and they were impressed by the quality of the screen and the fact that it's so light. The DLNA App is really cool, you can broadcast your movies, pictures, etc. from your phone to windows media player without configuring anything. Really useful to show short clips filmed with the phone. Sorry to sound like a fanboy, but I think this phone will, like you said, really give the iPhone a run for its money.

28 points by alvivar 15y ago

Samsung will soon be the new phone/smartphone king, to replace Nokia. Apple might take the smartphone king place for a quarter or two, but they can't compete with Samsung in sheer numbers, because Samsung is also making $150 smartphones, which appeal to a lot of people because of the price point. The new Galaxy S2 seems to to give the iPhone a run for its money, too.

kungfooey 15y ago
It's a short-term gain. As a Galaxy S1 owner, I've been burnt by the "nice hardware, no ongoing software support" issue and I probably will not invest any of my hard-earned money in Samsung products in the future. As a tech-influencer of friends and family, when asked for advice about the Samsung phones, I always recommend against them. I've noted other users express similar concerns, which leads me to believe they've sacrificed long-term consumer loyalty to short-term growth.
- josefresco 15y ago
  Expand further on your claim of "no ongoing software support" please.
  - CrazedGeek 15y ago
    I was personally burned by the Moment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_SPH-M900#Controversy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_SPH-M900#Controversy It got a single major update (from Android 1.5 to 2.1). Which was delayed from three months after the phone came out to seven. And software support stopped immediately after said update. Compare that to the HTC Evo, which just recently got an update to 2.3, over a year after the phone was released. EDIT: I should also mention that the phone and its drivers were incredibly buggy, even after the 2.1 update. The GPS was the worst- the only way anyone even got it working long-term was to port over a driver from the Intercept.
    - ZoFreX 15y ago
      Just be glad you didn't pick a Motorola Milestone.
      - CrazedGeek 15y ago
        Out of curiosity, why? Wikipedia mentions a constantly-delayed 2.2 update, but from what I've heard, the Droid/Milestone is a very good phone, updates or not.
        ZoFreX 15y ago
        In the UK I'm extra-unfortunate as no carrier picked it up, so we were all scratching our heads as the update got delayed for months for "carrier testing". The update made an absolutely huge difference, living without it was painful and apart from the huge delay, Motorola's handling of the situation was just terrible, their interactions with customers and the information they were giving out was all just very badly managed.
        CrazedGeek 15y ago
        Eek, that's pretty bad. At least I had both Sprint and Samsung to bitch at.
- rednaught 15y ago
  Google recognizes this problem and is attempting to get vendors onboard with an 18 month commitment for updates(http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/ http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-d...) . On the other hand, the hardware vendors prefer you buy a new handset every year. How many vendors will agree to long term updates is anybody's guess. I'm no fan of Apple but this is where their controlled line of hardware definitely helps updates/support.
  - ZoFreX 15y ago
    You'd be hard pushed to find a smartphone contract (for the likes of the iPhone and SII, anyway) on the high street that isn't 18 or even 24 months, in the UK at least. If Samsung think they can have a 12 month turn-around on their high-end models, they're lying to themselves, and if their business model depends on a 12-month turnaround, they're in trouble.
alanfalcon 15y ago
I have little doubt that Apple is working to compete at additional price points moving forward, so I'd definitely hold off on crowning anyone king until they actually earn it.
ugh 15y ago
Nice prediction that may well become true … but there is no reason to believe that Apple won’t sell $150 smartphones. Apple is willing to be competitive on price – from time to time. I think the market will stay crowded with no clear king (but Samsung and Apple certainly as two big players). Yet I honestly don’t know. I think it’s currently very hard to predict anything in the mobile space.
- nextparadigms 15y ago
  I really doubt they will do it in the same time with Android manufacturers. The high-end iPhone is like $600. The rumors say they will release a $350 iPhone model, too. They won't go to $150 until 2-3 years from now, if ever. In the mean time Android phones will probably reach $50-$70, and once again will be selling more in volume.
olihb 15y ago
I just got a Galaxy S2 and it's a really good phone. I've shown it to iPhone users and they were impressed by the quality of the screen and the fact that it's so light. The DLNA App is really cool, you can broadcast your movies, pictures, etc. from your phone to windows media player without configuring anything. Really useful to show short clips filmed with the phone. Sorry to sound like a fanboy, but I think this phone will, like you said, really give the iPhone a run for its money.