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> if you have one device (as many users do) and you lose that device you would lose all your data. The alternative is the key is derived from your iCloud passwo
by rgovostes 5y ago
> if you have one device (as many users do) and you lose that device you would lose all your data. The alternative is the key is derived from your iCloud password, in which case, if you forget your password, you lose all your data.
This is all a good point.
Purely coincidentally, the imminent next release of iOS adds new account recovery options: https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/06/how-to-use-icloud-data-recovery-iphone-ipad-mac/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/08/06/how-to-use-icloud-data-recove...
- new299 5y agoThat's a really interesting link, thanks. I'd not seen that. This statement: > The service requires Apple to maintain access to your data to help you recover it. For your privacy, Apple can’t access or help you recover your end-to-end encrypted information, such as Keychain, Screen Time, and Health data. Seems to suggest that there is no change to end-to-end encryption on iCloud.
- rgovostes 5y agoIf there is some upcoming change that has not been announced, Apple would try to be careful not to make any mention of it in the public betas.
- DenseComet 5y agoFrom the screenshot of turning on "Use Recovery Key": > If you create a recovery key and can't access your devices, Apple won't be able to help you regain access to your account or your data. That sounds like E2EE backups, but its impossible to know if that is truly the case until they provide more details.
- ValentineC 5y ago> Purely coincidentally, the imminent next release of iOS adds new account recovery options The scariest thing about this update to me is that it makes one's iCloud account incompatible (permanently?) with iOS and Mac devices that are not on iOS 15 or Monterey.