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This would be nice, it sucks that everything in the U.S contains corn syrup.

ip26 5y ago
FWIW it only contains corn syrup because it's cheaper than cane sugar. If corn wasn't so cheap, you'd just eat an equivalent amount of cane sugar instead.
- beerandt 5y ago
  >cheaper than cane sugar Which is because the US restricts cheap sugar imports from Mexico, to make US sugar cane farming profitable. My first thought when I saw the headline was that Mexico corn restrictions were retaliation for US sugar restrictions.
  - datavirtue 5y ago
    55% sugar beets, 45% cane.
- katbyte 5y ago
  Which is better? Cane sugar and corn syrup are very different and the harmful effects of “sugar” are greatly increased with HFCS
  - amanaplanacanal 5y ago
    Are they that different? I thought the major difference was that the disaccharide in cane sugar was split in corn syrup, which happens very quickly in your digestion anyway.
    - yissp 5y ago
      It has significantly more fructose which can cause digestive issues for some people (search fructose malabsorption, it's apparently fairly common).
    - katbyte 5y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM - the main gist of it is cane sugar is 50/50 sucrose and fructose while HFCS contains much more fructose which is harder for the body to digest/make use of as it requires being broke down or something and its hard on the liver ect. that video goes way into depth about it if your interested.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  Wouldn't it be just ordinary beetroot sugar? Why cane?
  - eru 5y ago
    I assume you mean the sugar beet? Cane sugar is cheaper than beet sugar. Alas, the sugar beet industry is also just another creature of tariffs and subsidies. See eg https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-us-spends-4-billion-a-year-subsidizing-stalinist-style-domestic-sugar-production-2018-06-25 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-us-spends-4-billion-a-... for the US. The situation in Europe was similar when I last looked, but that was at least a decade ago.
    - occamrazor 5y ago
      AFAIK sugar in Europe is mostly refined beet sugar, while refined ir brown cane sugar costs much more.
      - eru 5y ago
        Yes, and as far as I know that's down to tariffs and subsidies in the EU. See https://www.researchgate.net/figure/White-Sugar-Prices-Euro-t-in-the-EU-and-on-the-World-Market_fig2_23504863 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/White-Sugar-Prices-Euro-... to see that sugar is much more expensive inside the EU than on the world market. And https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-sugar-prices-graphic-idUSKCN1RK0LF https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-sugar-prices-graphic-i... and https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/food-farming-fisheries/farming/documents/sugar-market-situation_en.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/food-farming-f... https://www.ragus.co.uk/tariffs-on-sugars-explained/ https://www.ragus.co.uk/tariffs-on-sugars-explained/ also seemed interesting. They say: > The basic tariff for importing direct consumption sugar into the EU is €419 per tonne. So, every tonne of sugar imported from a non-EU country costs an extra €419. Raw sugar imported into the EU is to be further refined into white sugar attracts a tariff of €339 per tonne.
kylebyproxy 5y ago
Check your ingredient labels. Over the past decade, we've shifted away from HFCS to use more refined sugar. Sauce: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/sugar-sweeteners/background.aspx https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/sugar-sweeteners/backg...

ip26 5y ago

FWIW it only contains corn syrup because it's cheaper than cane sugar. If corn wasn't so cheap, you'd just eat an equivalent amount of cane sugar instead.

beerandt 5y ago
>cheaper than cane sugar Which is because the US restricts cheap sugar imports from Mexico, to make US sugar cane farming profitable. My first thought when I saw the headline was that Mexico corn restrictions were retaliation for US sugar restrictions.
- datavirtue 5y ago
  55% sugar beets, 45% cane.
katbyte 5y ago
Which is better? Cane sugar and corn syrup are very different and the harmful effects of “sugar” are greatly increased with HFCS
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  Are they that different? I thought the major difference was that the disaccharide in cane sugar was split in corn syrup, which happens very quickly in your digestion anyway.
  - yissp 5y ago
    It has significantly more fructose which can cause digestive issues for some people (search fructose malabsorption, it's apparently fairly common).
  - katbyte 5y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM - the main gist of it is cane sugar is 50/50 sucrose and fructose while HFCS contains much more fructose which is harder for the body to digest/make use of as it requires being broke down or something and its hard on the liver ect. that video goes way into depth about it if your interested.
KptMarchewa 5y ago
Wouldn't it be just ordinary beetroot sugar? Why cane?
- eru 5y ago
  I assume you mean the sugar beet? Cane sugar is cheaper than beet sugar. Alas, the sugar beet industry is also just another creature of tariffs and subsidies. See eg https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-us-spends-4-billion-a-year-subsidizing-stalinist-style-domestic-sugar-production-2018-06-25 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-us-spends-4-billion-a-... for the US. The situation in Europe was similar when I last looked, but that was at least a decade ago.
  - occamrazor 5y ago
    AFAIK sugar in Europe is mostly refined beet sugar, while refined ir brown cane sugar costs much more.
    - eru 5y ago
      Yes, and as far as I know that's down to tariffs and subsidies in the EU. See https://www.researchgate.net/figure/White-Sugar-Prices-Euro-t-in-the-EU-and-on-the-World-Market_fig2_23504863 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/White-Sugar-Prices-Euro-... to see that sugar is much more expensive inside the EU than on the world market. And https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-sugar-prices-graphic-idUSKCN1RK0LF https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-sugar-prices-graphic-i... and https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/food-farming-fisheries/farming/documents/sugar-market-situation_en.pdf https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/default/files/food-farming-f... https://www.ragus.co.uk/tariffs-on-sugars-explained/ https://www.ragus.co.uk/tariffs-on-sugars-explained/ also seemed interesting. They say: > The basic tariff for importing direct consumption sugar into the EU is €419 per tonne. So, every tonne of sugar imported from a non-EU country costs an extra €419. Raw sugar imported into the EU is to be further refined into white sugar attracts a tariff of €339 per tonne.

kylebyproxy 5y ago

Check your ingredient labels. Over the past decade, we've shifted away from HFCS to use more refined sugar. Sauce: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/sugar-sweeteners/background.aspx https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/sugar-sweeteners/backg...