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You're talking past sudosysgen. sudosysgen is arguing the methodology for ascribing emissions to trade is flawed and only takes into account first order power a
by dwohnitmok 5y ago
You're talking past sudosysgen. sudosysgen is arguing the methodology for ascribing emissions to trade is flawed and only takes into account first order power and cement production instead of both additional emission sources as well as second order consequences (e.g. what infrastructure exists because of the need for trade).
I personally could buy the 14% deficit number for China based on gut feel alone but I also think the trend line looks weird and indicates maybe something off with the accounting. For example I would expect the deficit now to much smaller than it was 20 years ago whereas it in fact appears to be considerably larger. Indeed if the graph is to be believed it appears this deficit has been growing this decade compared to past decades (although perhaps the last few years may indicate a reversal?) which is not what I would expect.
- nostromo 5y ago> the methodology for ascribing emissions to trade is flawed and only takes into account first order power and cement production instead of both additional emission sources That is only true for the first chart, not the chart we’re referencing in this conversation.
- dwohnitmok 5y agoAm I missing something? I'm looking at the chart "Production vs. consumption-based CO₂ emissions, China" (which is the chart that I think is the result of the article "How do CO2 emissions compare when we adjust for trade?") where the legend says > Note: This measures CO₂ emissions from fossil fuels and cement production only – land use change is not included.