> How much of that can be attributed to climate change denial? Just as much because a hell of a lot further would include alternatives. We'd have or be on our

> How much of that can be attributed to climate change denial? Just as much because a hell of a lot further would include alternatives. We'd have or be on our way to a functioming market, which they'd just be entering into. Also, you can't deny the negative effecr of denial on global culture via education and media. > It's unclear how that's due to cartels. It seems like you're just in the mood to argue or something. I didn't say cartels caused the 1979 shock, I was using it to illustrate how much power the cartels had and have.