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Because the vaccine was released almost a year prior and it didn't have approval but governments and individuals wanted it so bad. If that's what validates you

Because the vaccine was released almost a year prior and it didn't have approval but governments and individuals wanted it so bad. If that's what validates your reality, then call your senators about removing the exemption from liability after the FDA approval. Advocate for that. One thing I've been having fun with is imagining how people will move the goalpost after the FDA decision. I wonder how many people upon approval will say "ah the FDA is controlled by big pharma and other shadow masters!" If not approved "ha I knew it!" I wonder how many others will read the clinical trial studies the the FDA is evaluating (which are already available now) and reach a conclusion that agrees with the FDA.

stevev 5y ago
Would you buy a vehicle that skips third party quality control? I think most people would not. Especially if it’s something going into their bodies. I’m for science, but hearing vaccinated people able to get infected with the delta variant tells me these vaccines aren’t as effective. We’ve had people survive covid when no vaccines existed. Were they just lucky?
- davidcbc 5y ago
  The vaccines have not skipped quality control. They've done all the testing required by the FDA. Vaccines are not 100% effective. The vast vast majority of people who have been vaccinated have not been infected with covid, delta variant or not. A very small number have been infected, an extremely small number of those have been hospitalized and an infinitesimal percentage of people who have been vaccinated have died compared to the millions of unvaccinated people who have died from it. We've had millions of unvaccinated people die from covid and almost nobody vaccinated die from covid. So yes, the people who survived without vaccines were comparatively lucky. But now that there are vaccines dying from covid isn't unlucky, it's an unfortunate choice made by people who listen to people such as yourself spread lies about the vaccines. By spreading misinformation you are contributing to the deaths of thousands.
- chapium 5y ago
  How many millions of human trials will satisfy you without an FDA rubber stamp? Will FDA approval matter, or will you move on to your next talking point?
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  > We’ve had people survive covid when no vaccines existed. The existence of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke and similar "fell from plane without parachute" survivors doesn't mean jumping out of a plane without a parachute is the right call. No one has ever asserted COVID has a 100% mortality rate.
- vmception 5y ago
  The vaccines were never supposed to prevent infection 100%. Since the very beginning they've had varying degrees of effectiveness, this was widely reported every day since before the emergency authorizations in November 2020. They are functioning as advertised, as intended, as expected. Clear your cookies since the internet isn't even allowing you to see other information.

stevev 5y ago

Would you buy a vehicle that skips third party quality control? I think most people would not. Especially if it’s something going into their bodies. I’m for science, but hearing vaccinated people able to get infected with the delta variant tells me these vaccines aren’t as effective. We’ve had people survive covid when no vaccines existed. Were they just lucky?

davidcbc 5y ago
The vaccines have not skipped quality control. They've done all the testing required by the FDA. Vaccines are not 100% effective. The vast vast majority of people who have been vaccinated have not been infected with covid, delta variant or not. A very small number have been infected, an extremely small number of those have been hospitalized and an infinitesimal percentage of people who have been vaccinated have died compared to the millions of unvaccinated people who have died from it. We've had millions of unvaccinated people die from covid and almost nobody vaccinated die from covid. So yes, the people who survived without vaccines were comparatively lucky. But now that there are vaccines dying from covid isn't unlucky, it's an unfortunate choice made by people who listen to people such as yourself spread lies about the vaccines. By spreading misinformation you are contributing to the deaths of thousands.
chapium 5y ago
How many millions of human trials will satisfy you without an FDA rubber stamp? Will FDA approval matter, or will you move on to your next talking point?
ceejayoz 5y ago
> We’ve had people survive covid when no vaccines existed. The existence of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke and similar "fell from plane without parachute" survivors doesn't mean jumping out of a plane without a parachute is the right call. No one has ever asserted COVID has a 100% mortality rate.
vmception 5y ago
The vaccines were never supposed to prevent infection 100%. Since the very beginning they've had varying degrees of effectiveness, this was widely reported every day since before the emergency authorizations in November 2020. They are functioning as advertised, as intended, as expected. Clear your cookies since the internet isn't even allowing you to see other information.