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Pentagon will require all troops to get Covid vaccine by Sept. 15
- meristohm 5y agoBest time to plant a tree is 500 years ago, and now is not too bad, either. I got vaccinated against a lot of maladies while in the service, and while I still have some lasting nerve damage I accept it as part of the cost of protecting the group.
- brundolf 5y agoNerve damage? From vaccines?
- mountainb 5y agoProbably from the various bioweapon-related vaccines like the Anthrax vaccine among others.
- nanidin 5y agoGuillain–Barré syndrome[0] is a rare reaction to vaccination that causes the body to attack its own nerves and damage the myelin sheath. Possibly related? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain-Barr%C3%A9_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain-Barr%C3%A9_syndrome
- thatguy0900 5y agoUs military isn't exactly known for limiting soldiers exposure to awful chemicals. Seems like all my vet friends and family members have some kind of malady caused by exposure to random toxins.
- cryptnotic 5y ago> while I still have some lasting nerve damage Is nerve damage a common side-effect from military vaccinations?
- meristohm 5y agoNo idea. My point was to promote vaccination, even if there might be potential side effects in a small number of people. I accept that risk to help others. I’m not sure the vaccinations or physical injections are even the cause.
- hashmash 5y agoWhat did you get nerve damage from? I assume it wasn't from the vaccines, but someone might infer this and point out a reason why we should avoid them.
- nanidin 5y agoGuillain–Barré syndrome[0] is a rare reaction to vaccination that causes the body to attack its own nerves and damage the myelin sheath. Possibly related? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain-Barr%C3%A9_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain-Barr%C3%A9_syndrome
- deadalus 5y agoFDA Warns About Post-COVID Vax Guillain-Barré Syndrome : https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/93537 https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccin... EU lists rare nerve disorder as side-effect of J&J COVID-19 vaccine : https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/eu-lists-rare-nerve-disorder-side-effect-jj-covid-19-vaccine-2021-07-22/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...
- ceejayoz 5y agoCOVID itself causes Guillian-Barré Syndrome. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009191 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009191 All vaccines have the occasional rare side effect; Guillian-Barré is one of the more well known ones, and people get it from the flu shot each year. It's also quite clear the COVID vaccines haven't killed 600k in the US like the disease has, though. As with any other health intervention, the cost/benefits have to be weighed; they have been continue to be with regards to the vaccines.
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- hammock 5y ago>I assume it wasn't from the vaccines Why do you assume that? What risks do you believe vaccines to have and not have?
- josefresco 5y agoFWIW I have a friend, a former Marine who refuses to get the vaccine because of his experience in the military. He has diabetes and blames the vaccines he got while stationed in the middle east.
- lapetitejort 5y agoVaccines don't cause diabetes [0]. 0: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11731639/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11731639/
- josefresco 5y agoI know this, unfortunately he doesn't, or doesn't choose to accept it.
- silicon2401 5y agoIronically this comment would be equally helpful to pro- and anti-vaccine people.
- hammock 5y agoPerhaps that is because there is an indisputable truth to what he/she is saying, and that there is more subjectivity to the vaccine debate than meets the eye.
- k12sosse 5y agoA friend can't donate blood ever because of his malaria vaccination in the Canadian service. Thanks for putting the wolfpack ahead of the wolf!
- vmception 5y agoPragmatic process! It adds to the list of required vaccines for service members, in case people have forgotten that there are plenty of other vaccines people receive for generally non-fatal ailments (many of which they already received themselves!). Also they want to wait for FDA approval, assuming it happens in September, but allow themselves the discretion to require it before then.
- stevev 5y agoHow is it safe when the fda has not approved these vaccines nor has there been any studies on the permanent adverse effects some have experienced as a result of taking this vaccine?
- jbd28 5y agoEvery side effect this vaccine has caused is also caused in far greater numbers by Covid itself. No vaccine has ever had a new side effect after 9 weeks of administration in the history of medicine. And the mandate for the military is timed to be after full FDA approval which is a formality at this point.
- vaidhy 5y agoAny data to support this? This seems incredible.
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- ceejayoz 5y agoApproval is fully expected by pretty much everyone. No vaccine in the approval process has ever had so much data to base the decision on, and that data remains very positive.
- stevev 5y agoIf that is the case, why are big pharma exempt from liabilities when people are damaged from getting the vaccines?
- ceejayoz 5y agoBecause anti-vaccine FUD like this previously threatened our ability to produce them, leading to a specific system for evaluating claims and paying out damages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compensation_Program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compen... Be honest: Would FDA approval and extra safety studies actually move the needle for you as implied, or would you consider it all a part of Big Pharma's conspiracies?
- criticaltinker 5y agoDoes anyone know what the penalty will be for refusing to get vaccinated - eg honorable or dishonorable discharge? I don't see anything mentioned about it in the OP or linked sources. EDIT: I found the answer - "Personnel unable or unwilling to do that will be required to wear a mask, physically distance, comply with a regular testing requirement and be subject to official travel restrictions" [1] [1] Statement by Jamal Brown, Deputy Pentagon Press Secretary, on COVID-19 Vaccinations https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2713408/statement-by-jamal-brown-deputy-pentagon-press-secretary-on-covid-19-vaccinatio/ https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/27...
- ceejayoz 5y agoThey can be physically forced, but the more likely scenario is punishment under the UCMJ for failure to obey a lawful order.
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- IntrepidWorm 5y agoI do see this as a precursor to mandating vaccinations of the able public, and as much as setting that particular precident scares me it seems necessary at this point. Social distancing directives have proven to be effective when enforced, but time and time again we are seeing outbreaks when and where those restrictions are ignored. For all of the fears about possible side effects of the vaccine, we seem to be getting away from the original issue: For every day that we delay, more people will die.
- vmception 5y agoCould it really be a precedent when polio vaccines have been mandatory in all states for generations of children. Suggest we're just making up what authoritative idea would be considered a precedent. Republics or Representative Democracies or whatever can and do authoritative things. Typically you regulate the intermediary instead of regulate the individual, ie school admission requiring it, military service requiring it, travel requiring it etc.