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This is a decent comment, and I get it. I also don't want to fool with my setup too much anymore. I use Manjaro for my primary system, and it's great though.
by trey-jones 5y ago
This is a decent comment, and I get it. I also don't want to fool with my setup too much anymore. I use Manjaro for my primary system, and it's great though. I don't want to manage the software that I use everyday through SNAPs or however you do it on Ubuntu nowadays.
I just want the very latest of a short(ish) list of things, lets say arbitrarily within about 2 weeks of release, which is what Manjaro basically gives me.
pamac upgrade -a
Done. Or even better, most of the time:
pacman -Syu
This could be great for a games platform, because you'll get the latest CPU bytecode, and eg. Vulkan, and graphics drivers as well as the latest compatibility tools. Usually it's best to have the latest.
Anyway for Steam deck my first reaction is that they will need to:
1. Do like Manjaro and hold updates for a period of time before distributing them.
2. Provide some sort of one-click revert for when an update randomly prevents your device from booting. These are basically the only big problems that I encounter anymore - it usually takes 20 minutes to an hour to figure out which package is the problem and fix it, but you don't want to be doing that on your $600 steam deck.
Edit: As far as updates that brick your system go, my first experience with Arch was that if you don't keep up with the rolling releases, you will brick your system guaranteed when you update. So we'll see how that goes. That was 10+ years ago, and maybe it's not as bad now.
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- maxerickson 5y agoThe last 2 or 3 years I've had 2 or 3 high friction updates on Arch. More than 0, but not a lot.
- hendersoon 5y agoI've had maybe three or four high-friction upgrades on Ubuntu over the past 15 years, where it wouldn't boot properly until I fixed the problem. So yeah it's /better/, but it's far from flawless. Note I don't stick to LTS releases. If I only upgraded to the X.1 LTS releases I expect it would have been smoother.
- chaostheory 5y agoI've had one in 10 years. The only reason was because I didn't stay with LTS releases.
- trey-jones 5y agoThis aligns with my experience.
- edgyquant 5y agoI mean on ubuntu it's literally just apt update && apt upgrade. Snaps serve a purpose, but they aren't something you use for every program.
- trey-jones 5y agoTwo big differences with Arch and derivatives though: 1. AUR - almost anything you could need. 2. rolling releases - I admit I haven't used Ubuntu in a long time, but I use Debian for a variety of things, and it can be painful to need a release upgrade in order to get the next version of some piece of software. With Arch and derivatives, as long as you do updates regularly, everything stays new.