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If 70% of the emissions from Chinese manufacturers are attributable to the manufacture of products that are exported to consumers in America and Europe, who wou
by wombatmobile 5y ago
If 70% of the emissions from Chinese manufacturers are attributable to the manufacture of products that are exported to consumers in America and Europe, who would you say is responsible for greenhouse gases - the Chinese manufacturers, or the American and European consumers?
If your new tariffs caused Chinese manufactured goods to become less competitive, and resulted in the reversal of offshoring and the rebirth of American and European manufacturing, what would your tariffs have achieved?
- jjeaff 5y agoThe Chinese manufacturers. They are the ones responsible for their pollution. And the Chinese government who allows it. Just like drink manufacturers should be responsible for the plastic waste they produce.
- elliekelly 5y agoSo by that logic I could advertise coffee beans as handpicked by child slaves and you could buy my product completely guilt-free? I don’t think it’s functionally any different from arguing you aren’t a murderer simply because you’ve hired a hit man. Maybe you didn’t directly do the bad thing but you’ve paid someone to do the bad thing on you behalf. At a certain point isn’t financially supporting the bad-actor tantamount to supporting the bad action?
- jjeaff 5y agoYes, of course, supporting people or businesses doing bad things is bad. But the comment I was replying to seemed to imply that in fact, the company doing the bad thing was -not- to blame and those buying from them are. In addition, your scenario requires that consumers have full information. I can tell that a product is made in China by the label. I can't tell if they are dumping noxious chemicals into the river behind their facility. The company on the other hand, knows.
- tshaddox 5y ago> what would your tariffs have achieved? Reducing emissions, presumably. Wasn't that the point?
- MomoXenosaga 5y agoYeah we all know it wouldn't come back to Europe it would go to places like India and Vietnam. People are happy you can swim in the Rhine now we're not going back to the 1970s.