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> If we agree that Apple was right in 2016, it stands to reason that Apple cannot be compelled to modify its CSAM filter to capture arbitrary contents The gove
by 0x00000000 5y ago
> If we agree that Apple was right in 2016, it stands to reason that Apple cannot be compelled to modify its CSAM filter to capture arbitrary contents
The government or whoever will regularly add hashes to the list. Those hashes can be for anything and it’s not like Apple has any way to verify what they are for. Apple doesn’t really have oversight on what they’re doing if I understand correctly, all the trust is in whoever creates the list of hashes
- fay59 5y agoThe government will have to overcome the same issues compelling NCMEC to add pictures to its data set that it would have to overcome with Apple. Additionally, by compelling the NCMEC, the government cannot increase the scope of searching or lower the match threshold.
- 0x00000000 5y agoI wouldn’t think the government shares the images with NCMEC, wouldn’t they just say “we captured some hard drives, add these hashes to the list”?
- fay59 5y agoMy understanding is that the NCMEC actually has the pictures, and they’re basically the only people in the US who can legally hold onto them.
- yellow_lead 5y agoIt's a private nonprofit that appears to be wholly funded by the government. It's reasonable to expect that if they don't "play nice" with the DOJ, their funding could be affected. Incentives are important. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Missing_%26_Exploited_Children https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Missing_...
- fay59 5y agoBut it’s not something that the NCMEC can do in secret. Apple gets the CSAM reports and decides whether something is worth sending as a tip to NCMEC.
- anonAndOn 5y agoIt's not hard to imagine that authoritarian regimes all over the world will soon have their own special list of hashes of "illegal" images. Seems like a great way to bury any photographic evidence of government abuse.