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As I've said in another comment, the science is demonstrating that the vaccinated can spread Covid just as easily (though likely for a much shorter duration) th

As I've said in another comment, the science is demonstrating that the vaccinated can spread Covid just as easily (though likely for a much shorter duration) than the unvaccinated. And the vaccinated can still (rarely) get severely sick. So it's still a danger to everyone. Given that reality, the only responsible choice is for everyone to suck it up and wear a mask. Now had the unvaccinated in the US bothered to get vaccinated, the Delta variant might never have taken hold.

frockington1 5y ago
As a vaccinated person, I don't care if the unvaccinated get Covid. They made a choice, let them deal with the repercussions
- king_magic 5y ago
  You should, because you can still get Covid from one of those unvaccinated people - and you might die from it, or spread it to someone else who might die from it.
  - morsch 5y ago
    What is the risk of serious illness (and/or death) from delta covid after double vaccination? Too soon to tell?
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- jollybean 5y ago
  " They made a choice, let them deal with the repercussions" Oi vei. You will pay the price along with them. So long as the pandemic persists, any number of our systems are compromised, especially our healthcare system. You still have a decent chance of getting COVID even with the vaccine, though it'll likely be mild, you can still be hospitalized and face consequences. The vaccine is not a 'seat belt' i.e. just an individual action resulting in some individual consequence, it affects everyone.
briefcomment 5y ago
> Now had the unvaccinated in the US bothered to get vaccinated, the Delta variant might never have taken hold. That's conjecture. A conclusion from this study[1] is that vaccines correlate with dominance of fitter variants, including Delta. That suggests that it's possible that vaccines allow them to propagate. "the decline in lineage diversity was indeed correlated with increased rates of mass vaccination. Furthermore, the decline in lineage diversity was coupled with increased dominance of the B.1.1.7 (alpha), B.1.1.617 (delta) and P.1 (gamma) variants of concern, suggesting that these variants may be “fitter” SARS-CoV-2 lineages.” [1] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.21259833v https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.21259833v...

frockington1 5y ago

As a vaccinated person, I don't care if the unvaccinated get Covid. They made a choice, let them deal with the repercussions

king_magic 5y ago
You should, because you can still get Covid from one of those unvaccinated people - and you might die from it, or spread it to someone else who might die from it.
- morsch 5y ago
  What is the risk of serious illness (and/or death) from delta covid after double vaccination? Too soon to tell?
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jollybean 5y ago
" They made a choice, let them deal with the repercussions" Oi vei. You will pay the price along with them. So long as the pandemic persists, any number of our systems are compromised, especially our healthcare system. You still have a decent chance of getting COVID even with the vaccine, though it'll likely be mild, you can still be hospitalized and face consequences. The vaccine is not a 'seat belt' i.e. just an individual action resulting in some individual consequence, it affects everyone.

briefcomment 5y ago

> Now had the unvaccinated in the US bothered to get vaccinated, the Delta variant might never have taken hold. That's conjecture. A conclusion from this study[1] is that vaccines correlate with dominance of fitter variants, including Delta. That suggests that it's possible that vaccines allow them to propagate. "the decline in lineage diversity was indeed correlated with increased rates of mass vaccination. Furthermore, the decline in lineage diversity was coupled with increased dominance of the B.1.1.7 (alpha), B.1.1.617 (delta) and P.1 (gamma) variants of concern, suggesting that these variants may be “fitter” SARS-CoV-2 lineages.” [1] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.21259833v https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.01.21259833v...