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I don't know which planet you're from, but on planet Earth, all Western governments are currently in the middle of aggressively coercing their citizens into get

I don't know which planet you're from, but on planet Earth, all Western governments are currently in the middle of aggressively coercing their citizens into getting vaccinated.

tstrimple 5y ago
You're simply wrong. We've got plenty of conservative politicians celebrating low vaccination rates and pushing anti-vaccine misinformation. https://wset.com/news/local/us-rep-greene-congratulates-crowd-for-low-vaccination-rate-promotes-gun-violence https://wset.com/news/local/us-rep-greene-congratulates-crow... https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/71921 https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/71921
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  Those politicians aren't "the government", though. bobthechef's claim, as stated, is accurate. Your counterclaim, while also accurate, does not refute bob's point.
  - tstrimple 5y ago
    That's facile. These are politicians who make up the government. They represent half of the two party system we have in this country. Is disingenuous at best to claim she isn't a representative of the government. Honestly it's pretty disgusting that you're going to pretend Republicans haven't been downplaying the virus and doing what they can to prevent localities from taking precautions against it for over a year now. Either you're dangerously ignorant to the steps Republicans are taking to prevent us from handling this virus or you're deliberately spreading misinformation. Either way, you're a net negative to the discussion and actively causing harm with your misinformation.
    - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
      Representative Greene does not speak for the federal government. She does not set federal policy. She does not represent the government; she represents one district. She has less than 1/435th of the power of the House of Representatives. ("Less" because she chairs no committees.) I don't deny your claim about "celebrating low vaccination rates and pushing anti-vaccine misinformation". But you are simply wrong that Greene and people like her represent the government. They don't. (In the same way that AOC, say, doesn't represent the government. And, in fact, AOC and Greene can't both represent the US government.) > Either you're dangerously ignorant to the steps Republicans are taking to prevent us from handling this virus or you're deliberately spreading misinformation. Either way, you're a net negative to the discussion and actively causing harm with your misinformation. Yeah... maybe you ought to cool it with your accusations when you are actually misrepresenting my point.
      - tstrimple 5y ago
        Representatives of the government don't represent the government. Got it. Makes complete sense. Thanks for your contribution.
jonplackett 5y ago
I'm talking about the beginning of the pandemic. Remember that bit where our leaders literally went to shake hands with covid patients, in hospitals, without masks on? Most also compared it to Flu. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/05/boris-johnson-boasted-of-shaking-hands-on-day-sage-warned-not-to https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/05/boris-johns...

I don't know which planet you're from, but on planet Earth, all Western governments are currently in the middle of aggressively coercing their citizens into getting vaccinated.

tstrimple 5y ago

You're simply wrong. We've got plenty of conservative politicians celebrating low vaccination rates and pushing anti-vaccine misinformation. https://wset.com/news/local/us-rep-greene-congratulates-crowd-for-low-vaccination-rate-promotes-gun-violence https://wset.com/news/local/us-rep-greene-congratulates-crow... https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/71921 https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/71921

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
Those politicians aren't "the government", though. bobthechef's claim, as stated, is accurate. Your counterclaim, while also accurate, does not refute bob's point.
- tstrimple 5y ago
  That's facile. These are politicians who make up the government. They represent half of the two party system we have in this country. Is disingenuous at best to claim she isn't a representative of the government. Honestly it's pretty disgusting that you're going to pretend Republicans haven't been downplaying the virus and doing what they can to prevent localities from taking precautions against it for over a year now. Either you're dangerously ignorant to the steps Republicans are taking to prevent us from handling this virus or you're deliberately spreading misinformation. Either way, you're a net negative to the discussion and actively causing harm with your misinformation.
  - AnimalMuppet 5y ago
    Representative Greene does not speak for the federal government. She does not set federal policy. She does not represent the government; she represents one district. She has less than 1/435th of the power of the House of Representatives. ("Less" because she chairs no committees.) I don't deny your claim about "celebrating low vaccination rates and pushing anti-vaccine misinformation". But you are simply wrong that Greene and people like her represent the government. They don't. (In the same way that AOC, say, doesn't represent the government. And, in fact, AOC and Greene can't both represent the US government.) > Either you're dangerously ignorant to the steps Republicans are taking to prevent us from handling this virus or you're deliberately spreading misinformation. Either way, you're a net negative to the discussion and actively causing harm with your misinformation. Yeah... maybe you ought to cool it with your accusations when you are actually misrepresenting my point.
    - tstrimple 5y ago
      Representatives of the government don't represent the government. Got it. Makes complete sense. Thanks for your contribution.

jonplackett 5y ago

I'm talking about the beginning of the pandemic. Remember that bit where our leaders literally went to shake hands with covid patients, in hospitals, without masks on? Most also compared it to Flu. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/05/boris-johnson-boasted-of-shaking-hands-on-day-sage-warned-not-to https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/05/boris-johns...