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Not only that, but child porn seems to mean a different thing in every place. The Netherlands and other European countries define the age of consent at 16, mean
by mkl95 5y ago
Not only that, but child porn seems to mean a different thing in every place. The Netherlands and other European countries define the age of consent at 16, meaning some things that are perfectly legal there will be a ticket to prison in many countries. Now you don't just have an engineering problem, you will also have to spend a bunch of money to have some lawyers review your spec.
- Dma54rhs 5y agoThe age of consent goes low as 14 in Europe but that doesn't change the definition of CP. Probably they won't prosecute when both parties are underage and such so heavily but consent age doesn't change the fact that nudity is 18+.
- lucb1e 5y ago> nudity is 18+. You mean like in movies, those "can't see boobies before you're 18" labels? Because capturing a nude 13-year-olds is perfectly legal, just not in a pornographic manner. E.g. my Dutch biology book had nude ~6 and ~11 year old girls depicted (as well as an adult) for educating different stages of development.
- BiteCode_dev 5y agoNudity is 18+ in extremist countries like the Emirates or the USA. Sorry but in France, 30 years ago before american culture started to dictate where money come from, you would see genitals from all genders and ages in movies. Nobody found it offensive, because we didn't have a catholic puritan morality to impose its sick twisted vision of the human body on us. Meanwhile we sold car by showing cars, not hot girls. But this apparently is ok because money. It's also perfectly alright to show kids image of people killing each others in mass. Because this is sane, unlike nipples. And now this Apple crap. Edit: ok 50 years ago. I'm getting old it seems.
- ceilingcorner 5y ago> catholic puritan morality Might want to check your terms here.
- angry_octet 5y agoIndeed. But it strikes me that the places with the most rigorous enforcement of theological dominance also have the worst child abuse problems. Or, as an AI would decide, men in robes can't be trusted.
- BiteCode_dev 5y agoWell if you tell people they are sinners for being humans (having body parts), you get frustrated humans. I have been in very rigid religous countries. The men in the internet shops were all whatching hardcore porn, and my female friends were harassed in the street. So it's not men in robes, you can be deeply religious and have a and loving view of the world. But puritanism, and sexually frustrated people ashamed of even existing, are bound to generate unhappiness.
- ceilingcorner 5y ago> the places with the most rigorous enforcement of theological dominance also have the worst child abuse problems. Citation needed. The data doesn't back up that claim, contrary to the media's narrative. A report which Christian Ministry Resources (CMR) released in 2002 stated that contrary to popular opinion, there are more allegations of child sexual abuse in Protestant congregations than there are in Catholic ones, and that sexual violence is most often committed by volunteers rather than by priests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases#Comparisons_to_other_environments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_c... Catholic clergy aren't more likely to abuse children than other clergy or men in general. The 4 percent figure appears lower than school teachers during the same time frame, and certainly less than offenders in the general population of men. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201003/six-myths-about-clergy-sexual-abuse-in-the-catholic-church https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/2...
- sexy_seedbox 5y ago> Nudity is 18+ in extremist countries like the Emirates or the USA Titanic was PG-13 and it had a titty.
- Dma54rhs 5y agoYeah, not a native speaker. Used the word nudity while thinking of pornography.
- lucb1e 5y agoPretty sure porn involving 16-17 year olds in the Netherlands is also very illegal though, but correct me if I'm wrong.
- mkl95 5y agoI believe porn involving 16 year olds is still legal in the Netherlands. Which doesn't mean it is being commercially produced anymore, for obvious reasons. Maybe a Dutch reader can provide more insight into this.
- lucb1e 5y agoOkay enough opinions, let's look this up. Wikipedia cites the law saying it's 18 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinderpornografie#Wetgeving_in_Nederland https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinderpornografie#Wetgeving_in... It even includes people that "appear to be under 18" even if they turn out not to be. ("[...] afbeelding – van een seksuele gedraging, waarbij iemand die kennelijk de leeftijd van achttien jaar nog niet heeft bereikt, is betrokken of schijnbaar is betrokken, [...]") What I also found interesting is: > Het voorontwerp Wet seksuele misdrijven stelt niet langer strafbaar degene die een visuele weergave van een seksuele gedraging of een gegevensdrager bevattende een visuele weergave van een seksuele gedraging, waarbij hijzelf of een andere persoon die de leeftijd van achttien jaren nog niet heeft bereikt is betrokken, in het kader van een gelijkwaardige situatie tussen leeftijdsgenoten uitsluitend voor privégebruik vervaardigt, in bezit heeft of met die ander deelt. Short translation: sending or owning pictures of sexual acts involving an <18yo is not illegal if it concerns private use between persons of similar age in an 'equality situation' (I interpret this as meaning/implying 'consensual').
- mkl95 5y agoSame thing as in my country then. It seems to be the norm in most if not all of the EU these days.
- candiodari 5y ago