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In the Netherlands the situation is pretty much the same. I personally never use recruiters to find a job. I had put my CV shortly up on a website and got haras

In the Netherlands the situation is pretty much the same. I personally never use recruiters to find a job. I had put my CV shortly up on a website and got harassed months after with job vacancies that didn't even relate to my CV. Most developers around me also hold a grudge against recruiters and see it, like mentioned in your article, as a necessary evil. It's not nice being treated as livestock.

Peroni 15y ago
It's a global issue. A lot can be done to change it though. Have a look at my previous post 'Questions from my experiences as a recruiter on Hacker News' for tips on how to deal with sub-par recruiters. http://voltsteve.blogspot.com/2011/07/questions-from-my-experience-as.html http://voltsteve.blogspot.com/2011/07/questions-from-my-expe...
- pr0filer_ 15y ago
  I think the advice you give is interesting, though i'm more curious to hear why you think people should use a recruiter in the first place? I can see the potential training or retouching of a CV, but i feel somewhat confident that i got that right. So then, what's left? And isn't the harassment a trade-off for, as what i perceive, being too lazy to find a job yourself?
  - Peroni 15y ago
    Assuming you are dealing with a relatively decent recruiter: EMPLOYER BENEFITS 1. Access to candidates who aren't active on job boards. 2. Significant reduction in the amount of time spent screening candidates. 3. Some companies want to keep a low profile and don't want to advertise the fact that they are hiring. EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 1. Good recruiters will have the ear of the top CTO's & Directors so your details can be put directly in front of the right people. 2. A huge amount of work isn't publicly advertised so you need a recruiter to connect you to said roles. 3. Career & CV advice. Recruiters should be advising you on what you can do to improve your chances of getting a better job or salary.
rickmb 15y ago
In the Netherlands, the recruitment market has in the past few years been flooded with extremely aggressive recruiters from the UK. The majority the recruiters I encounter are British, even though they are recruiting Dutch developers for Dutch employers.

Peroni 15y ago

It's a global issue. A lot can be done to change it though. Have a look at my previous post 'Questions from my experiences as a recruiter on Hacker News' for tips on how to deal with sub-par recruiters. http://voltsteve.blogspot.com/2011/07/questions-from-my-experience-as.html http://voltsteve.blogspot.com/2011/07/questions-from-my-expe...

pr0filer_ 15y ago
I think the advice you give is interesting, though i'm more curious to hear why you think people should use a recruiter in the first place? I can see the potential training or retouching of a CV, but i feel somewhat confident that i got that right. So then, what's left? And isn't the harassment a trade-off for, as what i perceive, being too lazy to find a job yourself?
- Peroni 15y ago
  Assuming you are dealing with a relatively decent recruiter: EMPLOYER BENEFITS 1. Access to candidates who aren't active on job boards. 2. Significant reduction in the amount of time spent screening candidates. 3. Some companies want to keep a low profile and don't want to advertise the fact that they are hiring. EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 1. Good recruiters will have the ear of the top CTO's & Directors so your details can be put directly in front of the right people. 2. A huge amount of work isn't publicly advertised so you need a recruiter to connect you to said roles. 3. Career & CV advice. Recruiters should be advising you on what you can do to improve your chances of getting a better job or salary.

rickmb 15y ago

In the Netherlands, the recruitment market has in the past few years been flooded with extremely aggressive recruiters from the UK. The majority the recruiters I encounter are British, even though they are recruiting Dutch developers for Dutch employers.