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Sure thing boss. As soon as you pay for an extension to the house I'll have that extra room that I can allow monitoring in. Tbh This sort of <insert rude word

Sure thing boss. As soon as you pay for an extension to the house I'll have that extra room that I can allow monitoring in. Tbh This sort of <insert rude word here> shouldn't be legal unless the company pays rent for said room that is turned into a work place(market price for the area). While not a lot can afford the extra room at least those that don't have a choice get a boost to help them move to bigger housing.

pyrale 5y ago
Giving the finger to such requests works well enough for software engineers, but most jobs don't have an equivalent bargaining position. That's why we need protective laws and regulations for the workers. What governments aren't allowed to do, companies should probably not be allowed to do either.
- MereInterest 5y ago
  > That's why we need protective laws and regulations for the workers. And unions! The collective bargaining position may be strong even if the individual bargaining position is weak.
- xtracto 5y ago
  Exactly. This is Colombia or Mexico jobs what we are talking about here. If you dont want to get recorded then you are fired and 3 or 4 people in the hiring queue will get the job. My concern is that these teleperformance jobs have a huge voluntary rotation rate (people leaving the company). So I wonder how effective will this new surveillance policy be.
Fnoord 5y ago
> shouldn't be legal unless the company pays rent for said room that is turned into a work place(market price for the area) You're trying to make compromises which is dangerous if the opponent aims high to begin with, with an unreasonable take. Even that should not be legal, and it actually is not legal in The Netherlands to monitor employees like that. It has to be in proportion. For example, if laptops keep getting stolen at Friday afternoon, it makes sense to monitor who's there at that time, and use devices to catch the thief red handed. But it is not appropriate to force employees into Big Brother 2.0 with cameras and microphones. Right now, students are forced into such submission as well (via forced remote studying due to COVID), and I very much doubt it holds up in court.
- emodendroket 5y ago
  In the US only one or two states bar employers from setting up cameras in the bathroom or changing areas.
908B64B197 5y ago
Just build an ADU for your office. https://www.abodu.com/ https://www.abodu.com/

pyrale 5y ago

Giving the finger to such requests works well enough for software engineers, but most jobs don't have an equivalent bargaining position. That's why we need protective laws and regulations for the workers. What governments aren't allowed to do, companies should probably not be allowed to do either.

MereInterest 5y ago
> That's why we need protective laws and regulations for the workers. And unions! The collective bargaining position may be strong even if the individual bargaining position is weak.
xtracto 5y ago
Exactly. This is Colombia or Mexico jobs what we are talking about here. If you dont want to get recorded then you are fired and 3 or 4 people in the hiring queue will get the job. My concern is that these teleperformance jobs have a huge voluntary rotation rate (people leaving the company). So I wonder how effective will this new surveillance policy be.

Fnoord 5y ago

> shouldn't be legal unless the company pays rent for said room that is turned into a work place(market price for the area) You're trying to make compromises which is dangerous if the opponent aims high to begin with, with an unreasonable take. Even that should not be legal, and it actually is not legal in The Netherlands to monitor employees like that. It has to be in proportion. For example, if laptops keep getting stolen at Friday afternoon, it makes sense to monitor who's there at that time, and use devices to catch the thief red handed. But it is not appropriate to force employees into Big Brother 2.0 with cameras and microphones. Right now, students are forced into such submission as well (via forced remote studying due to COVID), and I very much doubt it holds up in court.

emodendroket 5y ago
In the US only one or two states bar employers from setting up cameras in the bathroom or changing areas.

908B64B197 5y ago

Just build an ADU for your office. https://www.abodu.com/ https://www.abodu.com/