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The article, and many like it, does a poor job of explaining the consequences we will face. 1.5°C doesn't mean much to the lay man. Explain that uncertain harve
by wiz21c 5y ago
The article, and many like it, does a poor job of explaining the consequences we will face. 1.5°C doesn't mean much to the lay man. Explain that uncertain harvests, tied to speculation on risks, will much likely lead to an increase in the price of bread. Add to that an increase in oil will also lead to a price increase.
Heatwave in Greece ? Greece is usually hot in summer so one doesn't care. Now explain how many houses were burnt in fire, how many people died, how much it costs to rebuild houses, where that money will be taken from, etc.
Consequences... Not prediction. Interestingly, my kids have hard time understanding the word "consequence". It's a difficult concept to get.
- Bellamy 5y agoWildfires in Canada and Russia. Floats in Germany. Etc, etc... We have known 40 years what will happen and now for our leaders those consequences seem to come as a surprise. I hope the Germans will vote for the Green party in the September's federal elections and other countries will follow the example.
- dantheman 5y agoDidn't Germany b decide to dismantle their nuclear power plants?
- lucb1e 5y agoYes, and it's not a topic they like to talk about. I have yet to meet a person from Germany that isn't outright in favor of abolishing nuclear, the best I've gotten out of one is to agree that it might have been better to do it after shutting down coal plants.
- longtom 5y agoI dearly hope the Greens will not win. Reducing consumption is an extremely tricky problem, and likely unfeasible without creating large amounts of poverty. I'd rather live in a rich, powerful nation with strong workforce and military rebuilding after each storm than being stripped my last rights and eating worms while a tiny elite still enjoying the freedoms we once had. Please do not fall for the propaganda.
- AstralStorm 5y agoFind smarter Greens and replace your current feel-good Greens with them. For all our sakes. A strong nation the size of EU nation does not have the resources to fix it. Maybe fight it a bit and try to not make it worse but alone that will not be enough. US or China might have these sorts of resources, but as we know politicians prefer patches and blame redirection and status quo.
- longtom 5y agoEU's and Germany's emissions are negligible anyhow (9% and 2%, respectively). It's all about the U.S. and China (and maybe India) at this point, especially the latter two that have the strongest increase in emissions. There is no point in inflicting arguably some of the worst politicians in history on these relatively small European nations. They should rather be investing in building a strong workforce and military that can rebuild after storms. The fact that this is not being discussed openly is deeply suspicious.
- alexgmcm 5y agoGermany's per-capita emissions are significantly higher than other Western European nations like the UK and Spain though (9.44 vs 5.55 and 5.40)[1] and pro-nuclear France manages even lower per-capita emissions than those (5.13). [1] https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/ https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-pe...
- longtom 5y agoSo? Reducing emissions in Germany is still a drop in the bucket.
- lucb1e 5y ago> Please do not fall for the propaganda. Yeah I don't know which one you've been listening to but this definitely doesn't only go for people voting green.
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- lazyjones 5y agoWildfires in Greece are common since several decades, fires are usually laid or started out of negligence. There is no sign of "uncertain harvests" in all the years people have been speculating about this as a potential consequence of global warming. Crop yields are breaking one record after another: https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/record-high-world-grain-production-for-second-year-in-a-row https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/record-high-world-...