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> A lot of people don't realize that Australians cannot leave Australia -- for quite some time now. Do you mean pre COVID? When I visited 10 years ago I had to

> A lot of people don't realize that Australians cannot leave Australia -- for quite some time now. Do you mean pre COVID? When I visited 10 years ago I had to pass through a checkpoint (maybe customs) after checking in, before security. I’ve always wondered what that’s for as we don’t have that in the UK. Many countries now effectively have instigated a permission to leave the country system. It’s highly worrying. Many many freedoms have come under assault since early 2020

robbiep 5y ago
It’s post covid, and it’s ostensibly to ensure that they don’t just want to come back again soon which will cause more upset with the government because they will ‘take’ away incoming seats from stranded Australians (currently around 30,000 trying to return to the country, and only I think 3-4000 allowed in a week at present). Not sure what you mean about coming into the country, the steps seem the same to me (inbound into australia) as they do for both the UK and the US - passport control, pick up bag, customs, out. Been the same for as long as I’ve been regularly travelling in and out (~18 years)
- switch007 5y ago
  > Not sure what you mean about coming into the country, Sorry, I meant on departure from Australia. I distinctly remember going through something like passport control on departure. "When departing Australia, you need to present your passport, completed Outgoing Passenger Card and boarding pass to an ACBPS officer" [0] Though the paper based Outgoing Card seems to have been deprecated in 2017 (before my visit) I don't really have an opinion but the concept was alien to me at the time. Maybe the process is/was less obvious in UK, split between the airlines, advanced passenger info etc. [0] https://assets.ctfassets.net/v228i5y5k0x4/2rMXkdDstm6okc0cgogUYE/2f87d17bb0d1b99d2f8d6697712e2742/GuideforTravellers.pdf https://assets.ctfassets.net/v228i5y5k0x4/2rMXkdDstm6okc0cgo...
eric4smith 5y ago
Post Covid.
switch007 5y ago
Too late to edit but to clarify I meant a checkpoint on departure from Australia

robbiep 5y ago

It’s post covid, and it’s ostensibly to ensure that they don’t just want to come back again soon which will cause more upset with the government because they will ‘take’ away incoming seats from stranded Australians (currently around 30,000 trying to return to the country, and only I think 3-4000 allowed in a week at present). Not sure what you mean about coming into the country, the steps seem the same to me (inbound into australia) as they do for both the UK and the US - passport control, pick up bag, customs, out. Been the same for as long as I’ve been regularly travelling in and out (~18 years)

switch007 5y ago
> Not sure what you mean about coming into the country, Sorry, I meant on departure from Australia. I distinctly remember going through something like passport control on departure. "When departing Australia, you need to present your passport, completed Outgoing Passenger Card and boarding pass to an ACBPS officer" [0] Though the paper based Outgoing Card seems to have been deprecated in 2017 (before my visit) I don't really have an opinion but the concept was alien to me at the time. Maybe the process is/was less obvious in UK, split between the airlines, advanced passenger info etc. [0] https://assets.ctfassets.net/v228i5y5k0x4/2rMXkdDstm6okc0cgogUYE/2f87d17bb0d1b99d2f8d6697712e2742/GuideforTravellers.pdf https://assets.ctfassets.net/v228i5y5k0x4/2rMXkdDstm6okc0cgo...

eric4smith 5y ago

Post Covid.

switch007 5y ago

Too late to edit but to clarify I meant a checkpoint on departure from Australia