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IPCC: Sixth Assessment Report
- headmelted 5y agoCached link here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28113883 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28113883
- Seldaek 5y agoBleak summary from The Guardian while you wait for the full report to come back https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/09/humans-have-caused-unprecedented-and-irreversible-change-to-climate-scientists-warn https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/09/humans-have-...
- cygx 5y agoPress conference live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z149vLKn9d8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z149vLKn9d8
- bellyfullofbac 5y agoMan, given how fucked up the situation is/will be, this snoozy-feeling press conference doesn't give the vibe of urgency. I'm just watching a lady with a French accent talking with a monotonous voice. Sorry to sound shallow, but IMO they do need a bit more Hollywood to get people's attention. But then again, the deniers would say "over-dramatic".
- clydethefrog 5y agoThis way of presenting the data is the most legit. Only if you are a scientist, climate journalist or have a general interest in climate collapse you are watching this. If they used PR language and used big, visual metaphors, the deniers would nitpick every little detail of it. See how the grand statements of Al Gore's documentary are still used nowadays to prove the climate is not collapsing at the moment. (You can even scroll down here to see it happen). Flashy educational presentations can quickly backfire - see DARE program or "You wouldn't download a car".
- ethbr0 5y agoWhat does a French accent have to do with anything?
- bellyfullofbac 5y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUnGvH8fUUc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUnGvH8fUUc
- drclau 5y agoPeople didn’t like Greta’s style either. There’s no pleasing you, humans.
- clydethefrog 5y agoThey press conference ended and they didn't even said "One more thing...". And so much of the data already got leaked by journalists!
- pmg101 5y agoWell depends what you mean by 'people'. Greta kickstarted a global youth climate activism movement and inspired millions of "people"; meanwhile, other "people" were turned off by her approach.
- pbak 5y agoI don't know what you are talking about. Your vertical eye slits slowly opening and closing please me very much, kin of Greta. P.S. : Still waiting on my invite to inner-earth.
- guilhas 5y ago> But then again, the deniers would say "over-dramatic". Because it obviously looks theatrical, the dramatization reading the paper...
- Faaak 5y agoFact sheet here: https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2021/06/Fact_sheet_AR6.pdf https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2021/06/Fact_sheet_A...
- QasimK 5y agoThis is useful to understand what this report actually is. It lays out the physical science basis for climate change. The full impacts, and possible mitigations will come in later months as two separate reports. Finally, there will be a summary next September (2022). Unfortunately, it looks like these won't be published in time for COP26 in Glasgow later this year.
- rtoway 5y ago> It is a statement of fact, we cannot be any more certain; it is unequivocal and indisputable that humans are warming the planet. How do you convince the deniers of this? It seems that more graphs and facts only make them deny harder
- aero-glide2 5y agoNews media being too alarmist (more than what the science says) could be one reason for rise of climate denialism. Can be fixed by more accurate reporting.
- psiconaut 5y agoI guess you're referring to media jumping too quickly to "bad science" for every single event of floods, drought, fires etc, therefore using fear and producing saturation in fellow citizens. that said, I honestly have a bad time trying to figure out if there's such a thing as "too alarmist" re. claims like "one third of projected population by 2070 will live in a nearly unlivable earth" https://www.pnas.org/content/117/21/11350 https://www.pnas.org/content/117/21/11350
- 1337shadow 5y agoIn my country, newspapers publish alarmist articles every day, they find anywhere in the world, anything climate related, a flood, a fire, a hot or cold temperature somewhere, they put a stupid photo such as a cute polar bear on a small iceberg, and they publish an article that looks like plain propaganda, it's sickening because it's politics instead of science. Perhaps that's what they are referring to. Or, they are referring to the IPCC reports themselves, for sure, the third and last working group who has the final words are not scientists indeed, which leads to all these "mistakes" in every final report that our politicians use (or try to) to create new taxes on the poor.
- cygx 5y agothe third and last working group who has the final words are not scientists I did a cursory check, and working group III seems to be headed by two academics (one of them a physicist), so not sure what you base that claim on...
- pfalafel 5y agoWorld leaders will fail to honor their climate pledges unless they make "immediate, rapid and large-scale reductions" to greenhouse gas emissions. https://www.dw.com/en/ipcc-report-climate-change/a-58801312 https://www.dw.com/en/ipcc-report-climate-change/a-58801312
- lrem 5y agoAren't all the pledges very specifically in a form that reduces to "my country will start behaving responsibly after I retire"?
- adrianN 5y agoFor some reason politicians agreed to the Paris target which requires immediate action.
- ethbr0 5y agoInternational shame. IMHO, it's what finally pushed nuclear arms control into action in the 60s and 70s.
- pbak 5y agoYou forgot a big fat /S. I almost took you seriously ;-D.
- ethbr0 5y agoNon-Aligned Movement https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty (1963) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_Nuclear_Test_Ban_Treaty https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_Nuclear_Test_Ban_Tre... Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (1968) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferation_of_Nuclear_Weapons https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferat... SALT I / ABMT (1969) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Arms_Limitation_Talks https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Arms_Limitation_Ta...
- pedrocr 5y agoI'm trying to find the Summary For Policymakers, which in the last report was a really good summary. I've found the link here: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_SPM.pdf https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... and yet so far it's just a dummy PDF with just "TEST PDF - Please Replace". Edit: It's up now
- perfunctory 5y agoThe Summary For Policymakers is coming out next year.
- pedrocr 5y agoAre you sure? I got the link from this page: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/#SPM https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/#SPM which besides being already up is called "AR6 Climate Change 2021: The Physical Science Basis". It also says the PDF is supposed to be "39 pages".
- zahma 5y agoBear in mind, everyone, that the Summary for Policymakers is very much a political document because it must be agreed on by the political representatives of each country.
- adrianN 5y agoProject Drawdown has a nice overview with things we could do and what their respective impact would be: https://www.drawdown.org/solutions/table-of-solutions https://www.drawdown.org/solutions/table-of-solutions
- eb0la 5y agoShocked to see food waste reduction is the thing with more potential emission savings. I guess there are a lot of network effects behind this.
- adrianN 5y agoThe big factor is land use and the resulting deforestation and/or drying of former wetlands.
- specialist 5y agoPersonal anecdote, FWIW: Since the pandemic, my personal food waste is finally near zero. In a nutshell, switched to mostly bulk foods, pressure cooker, baking.
- tomjen3 5y agoThe second thing, at 90% of the effect is to educate girls. I didn't realize that this would help with global warming at all, but it seems an excellent use of money regardless.
- psiconaut 5y ago"We'd like this report to help increase climate literacy worldwide." First time I hear the expression, but it might be key to unlock any action.
- refurb 5y agoThis confirms my suspicions that this can’t be fixed. We could discover fusion tomorrow, stop all CO2 release and we’re still on a catastrophic path that will wipe out a big part of humanity. Anything we do is just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
- drclau 5y agoRemoving CO2 from the atmosphere would help. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration
- T-A 5y agoMaybe you should read the report before claiming that it confirms your apocalyptic visions. The lowest emission scenario in the report, with emissions falling to zero by 2050, keeps global warming below 1.5C. Yours, "discover fusion tomorrow, stop all CO2 release" would obviously do even better.
- cloudfifty 5y agoAh, this magic shift by reactionaries to "it's over, no point" that just serves the same purpose of the previous deny and delay phases.
- refurb 5y agoWrong. Based on the data, we’re on track for catastrophic warming regards of what we do. Or are you a denier?
- thanatos519 5y agoThe greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function. — Albert Allen Bartlett
- esarbe 5y agoI've noticed again and again that some people just seem unable to accept the vast amount of evidence that has been piling up in front of their eyes for the last forty years. They do not seem able to process the data, primarily because they cannot accept the conclusion this would lead to, namely that the global human civilization faces a collapse. This does not have to do with education it seems. Lots of school smart people seem fall into this category and conversely I've had uneducated lower-class people come to that conclusion a long time ago. There's a saying that a new paradigm does not get accepted into mainstream because of it convincing its detractors but because they all die in the end. I think this is somehow the same with the climate crisis. The detractors and denialists will never accept any evidence that we put in front of their eyes; they cannot accept the conclusion, no matter what.
- lcall 5y agoRelated, busier thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28113852 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28113852