I saw a lot of people talking about programer/developer vs computer scientists. I just wanted to add to that that CS/maths doesn't make you a good engineer eith

I saw a lot of people talking about programer/developer vs computer scientists. I just wanted to add to that that CS/maths doesn't make you a good engineer either. Some of the smartest computer scientists I know are just horrendous engineers (what's worse a lot of them lack awareness and have big egos and insecurities to boot). They seem to see code as a means to an end, and they only know how to think in terms of some primitives, and lack the ability to think in bigger pictures. On the other hand one of the best engineers was one who didn't study math or computer science in his career. He designs elegant/simple systems that have maintainability and DX baked into them. Of course this isn't a rule, just anegdota.