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> Can you answer that without a slippery slope argument? So far any defense of this whole fiasco can be boiled down to what you are trying to imply in part. Wh
by 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 5y ago
> Can you answer that without a slippery slope argument?
So far any defense of this whole fiasco can be boiled down to what you are trying to imply in part. When you say "The possibility of abusing this system is a slippery slope argument", as if identifying a (possible) slippery slope element in an argument would somehow automatically make it invalid?
The other way around if all that can be said in defense is that the dangers are part of slippery slope thinking, then you are effectively saying that the only defense is "trust them, let's wait and see, they might not do something bad with it" or "it sure doesn't affect me" (sounds pretty similar to "I've got nothing to hide"). This might work for other areas, not so much when it comes to backdooring your device/backups for arbitrary database checks.
And since "oh the children" or "but the terrorists" has become the vanilla excuse for many many things I'm unsure why we are supposed to believe in a truly noble intent down the road here. "No no this time it's REALLY about the kids, the people at work here mean it" just doesn't cut it anymore.
So no, I'm not convinced the people at Apple working on this actually do it because they care.
When "but the children" becomes a favourite excuse to push whatever, the problem are very much the people abusing this very excuse to this level, not the ones becoming wary of it.
> some of the tech community has begun to think we should do absolutely nothing about this problem
I don't believe that people think that, I believe that people rather think that the ones in power simply aren't actually mainly interested in this problem. The trust is (rightfully) heavily damaged.
- loves_mangoes 5y ago> So no, I'm not convinced the people at Apple working on this actually do it because they care. I think this is the hardest part to steelman. If you believe that Apple employees are doing this not because they care, then you need to explain the true motive you think they have, otherwise that would be assuming bad faith. Apple has smart and reasonable people, they must have a reason that can be explained, beyond not caring.