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Really nice explanation from someone who knows a thing or two about images/photos (Dr. Neal Krawetz is the creator of https://fotoforensics.com https://fotofore

Really nice explanation from someone who knows a thing or two about images/photos (Dr. Neal Krawetz is the creator of https://fotoforensics.com https://fotoforensics.com and specializes in computer forensics).

valparaiso 5y ago
He wrongly interpreted CSAM scanning. He said that Apple will scan your photos and if finds something, it will send photo to Apple. Which is absolutely not how it works. Photo is only scanned before uploading to iCloud Photos. Apple already confirmed it to iMore and it’s clearly stated in Apple papers from press-release.
- GauntletWizard 5y ago
  You're very clearly missing the forest for the trees. Right before uploading to icloud, "Apple will scan your photos and if finds something, it will send photo to Apple." This process is automated and turned on on most iPhones. Most iPhones will have automatic photo upload to icloud enabled, and that's when this scanning takes place.
  - 8bitsrule 5y ago
    "The problem with AI is that you don't know what attributes it finds important.... It determined that ... a guy with long hair is female." Lots of people had this problem back in the 60s. Funny - except that some guys were jailed or worse because of it.
  - judge2020 5y ago
    > Most iPhones will have automatic photo upload to icloud enabled, I highly doubt that with how each photo is 10+MB and Apple only gives an abysmal 5GB of free iCloud storage, which includes everything else. My iphone 6s backups got to 4.5gb on their own years ago, turning off photo storage was the only way to avoid paying for iCloud storage outright.
- zionic 5y ago
  Please stop spreading misinformation. Apple has built the system to scan your entire phone, their claims about its limited scope are suspect.
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - judge2020 5y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28112982 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28112982

valparaiso 5y ago

He wrongly interpreted CSAM scanning. He said that Apple will scan your photos and if finds something, it will send photo to Apple. Which is absolutely not how it works. Photo is only scanned before uploading to iCloud Photos. Apple already confirmed it to iMore and it’s clearly stated in Apple papers from press-release.

GauntletWizard 5y ago
You're very clearly missing the forest for the trees. Right before uploading to icloud, "Apple will scan your photos and if finds something, it will send photo to Apple." This process is automated and turned on on most iPhones. Most iPhones will have automatic photo upload to icloud enabled, and that's when this scanning takes place.
- 8bitsrule 5y ago
  "The problem with AI is that you don't know what attributes it finds important.... It determined that ... a guy with long hair is female." Lots of people had this problem back in the 60s. Funny - except that some guys were jailed or worse because of it.
- judge2020 5y ago
  > Most iPhones will have automatic photo upload to icloud enabled, I highly doubt that with how each photo is 10+MB and Apple only gives an abysmal 5GB of free iCloud storage, which includes everything else. My iphone 6s backups got to 4.5gb on their own years ago, turning off photo storage was the only way to avoid paying for iCloud storage outright.
zionic 5y ago
Please stop spreading misinformation. Apple has built the system to scan your entire phone, their claims about its limited scope are suspect.
- deleted 5y ago
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- judge2020 5y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28112982 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28112982