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Thanks. Any sources for their opinion? Probably I shd read the copyright release form in more detail, but if you think terms of copyright this won't fly.

chrisseaton 5y ago
> but if you think terms of copyright this won't fly Wooah there I'm not giving any legal advice. Ask a lawyer.
gmueckl 5y ago
Even if it is potentially technically illegal, I don't know about anyone who tried to stop it. Note that some release forms explicitly allow author's versions of the covered work for download on the author's website. There's usually a stipulation that they need to be different in some way, for example by not using the same formatting template as the journal/conference version of the paper.
- aurizon 5y ago
  The journals always want their 'pound of flesh' as Shakespeare spins in his grave.... Some insights:- https://www.editage.com/insights/what-are-the-differences-between-open-access-and-standard-subscription-based-publication https://www.editage.com/insights/what-are-the-differences-be...
  - gmueckl 5y ago
    I don't see any new insights on the page that you linked. I personally signed copyright transfer forms that allowed for author's versions. There were some conditions that I don't remember in detail. But the gist is that a commercial publisher still allowed me to have a version of the article text online.
    - aurizon 5y ago
      They make you go through hoops and remember you - after a few requests the paywall emerges. In this modern day, with publishing costs steadily falling, their demands for payment have become ever more demanding
Someone 5y ago
With at least some of the major publishers, it nowadays is even legal to put the final paper on a public web site or the Archiv. https://www.springernature.com/gp/authors/how-to-share https://www.springernature.com/gp/authors/how-to-share: “Authors publishing via subscription models may also self-archive a copy of the accepted version of their manuscript (post-peer review, but prior to copy-editing and typesetting) in an institutional or subject repository, where it can be made openly accessible after an embargo period, in accordance with the relevant Springer Nature self-archiving policy (Nature, Springer, or Palgrave Macmillan)” (More info at https://www.nature.com/nature-portfolio/editorial-policies/self-archiving-and-license-to-publish https://www.nature.com/nature-portfolio/editorial-policies/s...) https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/sharing https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/sharing: “Accepted Manuscript Authors can share their accepted manuscript: Immediately - via their non-commercial personal homepage or blog - by updating a preprint in arXiv or RePEc with the accepted manuscript - via their research institute or institutional repository for internal institutional uses or as part of an invitation-only research collaboration work-group - directly by providing copies to their students or to research collaborators for their personal use - for private scholarly sharing as part of an invitation-only work group on commercial sites with which Elsevier has an agreement After the embargo period - via non-commercial hosting platforms such as their institutional repository - via commercial sites with which Elsevier has an agreement“* (Seems a bit less constrained than SpringerNature)

chrisseaton 5y ago

> but if you think terms of copyright this won't fly Wooah there I'm not giving any legal advice. Ask a lawyer.

gmueckl 5y ago

Even if it is potentially technically illegal, I don't know about anyone who tried to stop it. Note that some release forms explicitly allow author's versions of the covered work for download on the author's website. There's usually a stipulation that they need to be different in some way, for example by not using the same formatting template as the journal/conference version of the paper.

aurizon 5y ago
The journals always want their 'pound of flesh' as Shakespeare spins in his grave.... Some insights:- https://www.editage.com/insights/what-are-the-differences-between-open-access-and-standard-subscription-based-publication https://www.editage.com/insights/what-are-the-differences-be...
- gmueckl 5y ago
  I don't see any new insights on the page that you linked. I personally signed copyright transfer forms that allowed for author's versions. There were some conditions that I don't remember in detail. But the gist is that a commercial publisher still allowed me to have a version of the article text online.
  - aurizon 5y ago
    They make you go through hoops and remember you - after a few requests the paywall emerges. In this modern day, with publishing costs steadily falling, their demands for payment have become ever more demanding

Someone 5y ago

With at least some of the major publishers, it nowadays is even legal to put the final paper on a public web site or the Archiv. https://www.springernature.com/gp/authors/how-to-share https://www.springernature.com/gp/authors/how-to-share: “Authors publishing via subscription models may also self-archive a copy of the accepted version of their manuscript (post-peer review, but prior to copy-editing and typesetting) in an institutional or subject repository, where it can be made openly accessible after an embargo period, in accordance with the relevant Springer Nature self-archiving policy (Nature, Springer, or Palgrave Macmillan)” (More info at https://www.nature.com/nature-portfolio/editorial-policies/self-archiving-and-license-to-publish https://www.nature.com/nature-portfolio/editorial-policies/s...) https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/sharing https://www.elsevier.com/about/policies/sharing: “Accepted Manuscript Authors can share their accepted manuscript: Immediately - via their non-commercial personal homepage or blog - by updating a preprint in arXiv or RePEc with the accepted manuscript - via their research institute or institutional repository for internal institutional uses or as part of an invitation-only research collaboration work-group - directly by providing copies to their students or to research collaborators for their personal use - for private scholarly sharing as part of an invitation-only work group on commercial sites with which Elsevier has an agreement After the embargo period - via non-commercial hosting platforms such as their institutional repository - via commercial sites with which Elsevier has an agreement“* (Seems a bit less constrained than SpringerNature)