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This bill keeps getting worse with all the wreckage that is getting included. Please please, start including the names of the reps pushing these idiotic measure

This bill keeps getting worse with all the wreckage that is getting included. Please please, start including the names of the reps pushing these idiotic measures as it's the only way to stop them. And before someone accuses me of "not wanting to stop drunk driving", of course I do. The way to do that is to address the underlying causes of alcoholism, not patching the symptoms.

JoeAltmaier 5y ago
You can address causes til you're blue in the face. We've already tried a dozen ways - state-run liquor stores, therapy programs, breath testing, prohibition and on and on. It may be time for something different. Maybe just stop a car cold that's behaving erratically. Nobody has the right to endanger strangers on the highway, for any reason. The right bill will be important. But its not idiotic, to try to save lives with technology. Nor is it far away from a workable solution.
- pythonaut_16 5y ago
  That's the exact problem with the bill. Of course a car that refuses to be driven drunk sounds like a great way to stop drunk driving. But the technology to feasibly and reliably do that does not exist.
  - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
    Agreed. But its not crazy to imagine it could soon exist, and could be a good idea to deploy at that time.
- jihodl 5y ago
  Just do away with the legal limit altogether, drop it to zero. If you've had anything at all to drink then you should not be operating a motor vehicle on puclic roadways. If you get caught DUI then your license should be permanently revoked. I wonder how drastically improved the alcohol related traffic fatality statistics would be with that law. The regulation currently up for consideration clearly violates the fourth amendment.
  - JoeAltmaier 5y ago
    That's childish, and doesn't belong here on HN.
    - jihodl 5y ago
      Armenia, Azerbaijan, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Jordan, Kyrgyzstan, all have BAC limits of zero. Try to leave constructive comments that discuss the points made in a parent instead of attacking it outright and calling it names.

JoeAltmaier 5y ago

You can address causes til you're blue in the face. We've already tried a dozen ways - state-run liquor stores, therapy programs, breath testing, prohibition and on and on. It may be time for something different. Maybe just stop a car cold that's behaving erratically. Nobody has the right to endanger strangers on the highway, for any reason. The right bill will be important. But its not idiotic, to try to save lives with technology. Nor is it far away from a workable solution.

pythonaut_16 5y ago
That's the exact problem with the bill. Of course a car that refuses to be driven drunk sounds like a great way to stop drunk driving. But the technology to feasibly and reliably do that does not exist.
- JoeAltmaier 5y ago
  Agreed. But its not crazy to imagine it could soon exist, and could be a good idea to deploy at that time.
jihodl 5y ago
Just do away with the legal limit altogether, drop it to zero. If you've had anything at all to drink then you should not be operating a motor vehicle on puclic roadways. If you get caught DUI then your license should be permanently revoked. I wonder how drastically improved the alcohol related traffic fatality statistics would be with that law. The regulation currently up for consideration clearly violates the fourth amendment.
- JoeAltmaier 5y ago
  That's childish, and doesn't belong here on HN.
  - jihodl 5y ago
    Armenia, Azerbaijan, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Jordan, Kyrgyzstan, all have BAC limits of zero. Try to leave constructive comments that discuss the points made in a parent instead of attacking it outright and calling it names.