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I don't know about drugs as such but 15 years after quitting smoking I still dream I'm smoking and wake up in the morning with the urge to light one. If I get a

I don't know about drugs as such but 15 years after quitting smoking I still dream I'm smoking and wake up in the morning with the urge to light one. If I get a whiff of one when walking down the street... It hurts. For me: I think I'm still addicted to it or at least I have the neural pathways of one.

the-dude 5y ago
Actually this was one of the first 'signs' for me. When I started to really relax, say a 1-2 hour walk in one of our parks, embracing the void as I like to call it : I noticed I didn't smoke. After a while I stopped carrying the cigarettes.
darkerside 5y ago
Pain is mandatory, suffering is optional. Have you read easy way to quit smoking?
- White_Wolf 5y ago
  Fo me it was not exactly easy. I self imposed a limit, in the beginning, of 1/h (used to smoke around 2x20 packs/day-chaining 2-3 at a time). When I was confortable with 1/h I went cold turkey with shivers and the full monty. I wouldn't do that a second time tbh. On the other hand: My wife had 0 issues and quit overnight. She said she only wanted a smoke a few times/year (maybe 3-5 times or so)
  - projektfu 5y ago
    I have a friend who has a similar experience to you. He quit years ago, around when I quit. I had been talking about the book, "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking", so I assumed when he quit he had read it. He had not. He continues to suffer when he thinks about cigarettes and when he smells it across the street or in a park. I recommended that he read it anyway, and that it is a really useful book for getting over that part of the addiction. He still has not read it. He reads 100 books a year and has not read this inexpensive little 240-page book. Well, some people choose to suffer.
  - darkerside 5y ago
    https://www.allencarr.com/easyway-stop-smoking/how-to-quit/ https://www.allencarr.com/easyway-stop-smoking/how-to-quit/ Really, just buy the book. But don't worry about the ceremonies of having that final cigarette. What's important is the base idea. Your mind has been tricked and tricked you in return, and all you need to do is decide to stop playing its games.
    - White_Wolf 5y ago
      Sorry. My bad. I didn't start again. So far I managed to hold my ground and not touch ciggies. I meant - I wouldn't start smoking again to go through stopping.
      - the-dude 5y ago
        I think he is saying although you already stopped, the book might still be valuable.
        darkerside 5y ago
        Yes, this :) I say this as a happy former smoker. Something I never thought I would say.
    - earth_walker 5y ago
      I reluctantly second the "easy way". I had heard about it, was skeptical, but found it for a buck at a second hand store so I gave it a try. I hated it. Badly written, pop psychology trash. Lame circular logic. The same few points repeated ad nauseum. Almost painful to read. There's no way this would work. And by 3/4 of the way through the book I smoked my last cigarette. That was 18 years ago. I had been smoking since I was a teen, for fifteen years at least. Had tried to quit so many times, never succeeding for more than a couple of months. I haven't even craved one since reading that damn book.
dlkf 5y ago
That tracks. A few months after I quit, I asked my Dad (who quit in the late eighties) when the cravings go away for good. He laughed and said "they don't."
- jethro_tell 5y ago
  It's that post dinner smoke for me. Everything else is easy, but I have to have that battle every day.
- elb2020 5y ago
  My dad says the same. But it's been five years since I quit tobacco, and I do not get the cravings anymore. I might get faintly reminded of it, still, connected to certain situations, but nowhere near what I'd call a craving.
kmmlng 5y ago
There really seem to be different ways of quitting. You can quit while remaining addicted, but you can also quit by getting over the addiction. Clearly, you have taken the first path, i.e. are playing on hard mode. I know this path well, but for my final attempt somehow managed to take the second path after 10 years of smoking. It was easy. It continues to be easy. I don't know, but I suspect if I had one cigarette today, I'd be back to a pack a day tomorrow, so in that sense I'm still different to someone who has never smoked in the first place. But I don't have the slightest urge to smoke that first cigarette. If we could get a clear understanding on how to facilitate this second path, that would truly be helpful to a lot of people.

the-dude 5y ago

Actually this was one of the first 'signs' for me. When I started to really relax, say a 1-2 hour walk in one of our parks, embracing the void as I like to call it : I noticed I didn't smoke. After a while I stopped carrying the cigarettes.

darkerside 5y ago

Pain is mandatory, suffering is optional. Have you read easy way to quit smoking?

White_Wolf 5y ago
Fo me it was not exactly easy. I self imposed a limit, in the beginning, of 1/h (used to smoke around 2x20 packs/day-chaining 2-3 at a time). When I was confortable with 1/h I went cold turkey with shivers and the full monty. I wouldn't do that a second time tbh. On the other hand: My wife had 0 issues and quit overnight. She said she only wanted a smoke a few times/year (maybe 3-5 times or so)
- projektfu 5y ago
  I have a friend who has a similar experience to you. He quit years ago, around when I quit. I had been talking about the book, "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking", so I assumed when he quit he had read it. He had not. He continues to suffer when he thinks about cigarettes and when he smells it across the street or in a park. I recommended that he read it anyway, and that it is a really useful book for getting over that part of the addiction. He still has not read it. He reads 100 books a year and has not read this inexpensive little 240-page book. Well, some people choose to suffer.
- darkerside 5y ago
  https://www.allencarr.com/easyway-stop-smoking/how-to-quit/ https://www.allencarr.com/easyway-stop-smoking/how-to-quit/ Really, just buy the book. But don't worry about the ceremonies of having that final cigarette. What's important is the base idea. Your mind has been tricked and tricked you in return, and all you need to do is decide to stop playing its games.
  - White_Wolf 5y ago
    Sorry. My bad. I didn't start again. So far I managed to hold my ground and not touch ciggies. I meant - I wouldn't start smoking again to go through stopping.
    - the-dude 5y ago
      I think he is saying although you already stopped, the book might still be valuable.
      - darkerside 5y ago
        Yes, this :) I say this as a happy former smoker. Something I never thought I would say.
  - earth_walker 5y ago
    I reluctantly second the "easy way". I had heard about it, was skeptical, but found it for a buck at a second hand store so I gave it a try. I hated it. Badly written, pop psychology trash. Lame circular logic. The same few points repeated ad nauseum. Almost painful to read. There's no way this would work. And by 3/4 of the way through the book I smoked my last cigarette. That was 18 years ago. I had been smoking since I was a teen, for fifteen years at least. Had tried to quit so many times, never succeeding for more than a couple of months. I haven't even craved one since reading that damn book.

dlkf 5y ago

That tracks. A few months after I quit, I asked my Dad (who quit in the late eighties) when the cravings go away for good. He laughed and said "they don't."

jethro_tell 5y ago
It's that post dinner smoke for me. Everything else is easy, but I have to have that battle every day.
elb2020 5y ago
My dad says the same. But it's been five years since I quit tobacco, and I do not get the cravings anymore. I might get faintly reminded of it, still, connected to certain situations, but nowhere near what I'd call a craving.

kmmlng 5y ago

There really seem to be different ways of quitting. You can quit while remaining addicted, but you can also quit by getting over the addiction. Clearly, you have taken the first path, i.e. are playing on hard mode. I know this path well, but for my final attempt somehow managed to take the second path after 10 years of smoking. It was easy. It continues to be easy. I don't know, but I suspect if I had one cigarette today, I'd be back to a pack a day tomorrow, so in that sense I'm still different to someone who has never smoked in the first place. But I don't have the slightest urge to smoke that first cigarette. If we could get a clear understanding on how to facilitate this second path, that would truly be helpful to a lot of people.