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Tor is the anonymous net. It might be not perfect against targeting state-level attackers, but generally it works and delivers its promise.
by vbezhenar 5y ago
Tor is the anonymous net. It might be not perfect against targeting state-level attackers, but generally it works and delivers its promise.
- user3939382 5y ago> it works Does it? Dragnet surveillance might not easily inspect all Tor traffic, but it can easily see who is using it, flag those identities, and put them on a list for increased scrutiny. Unless a major web browser has it enabled by default, I don’t see it delivering on its promise.
- IggleSniggle 5y ago> What if everyone believed that law-abiding citizens should use postcards for their mail? If a nonconformist tried to assert his privacy by using an envelope for his mail, it would draw suspicion. Perhaps the authorities would open his mail to see what he's hiding. Fortunately, we don't live in that kind of world, because everyone protects most of their mail with envelopes. So no one draws suspicion by asserting their privacy with an envelope. There's safety in numbers. Analogously, it would be nice if everyone routinely used encryption for all their email, innocent or not, so that no one drew suspicion by asserting their email privacy with encryption. Think of it as a form of solidarity. —— I agree with you. And also perhaps those of us with nothing to hide really need to spend more time on Tor
- ipaddr 5y agoDon't leave the onion network. It's the exit nodes where 1/3 are hostile.
- arminiusreturns 5y agoThats a really good point actually!
- pydry 5y agoThe fact it is state built and state funded doesnt give me confidence that it protects you against state level adversary.
- vbezhenar 5y agoThey built it for their spies, so they can exchange information without traces. And they popularize it, so metadata analysis becomes useless. It's unlikely to have vulnerabilities, because other states could find and use them.
- phone8675309 5y agoIf it was indeed built for spies as they claim then I would expect that they know how to track communications through it because you have to know when your spies are leaking materials or have gone rogue.
- phone8675309 5y agoThe fact that the inventor of onion routing technology from the United States Naval Research Laboratory was involved in the creation of Tor pretty much ensures that Tor will be useless at evading 5 Eyes and equivalent nation-state actors. If they've not come at you when you're using Tor then it's that they don't care to find you. It's not that they can't find you.