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That might depend a lot on the country you are in/from. The huge majority of (similar aged) people I had meet between 16-20 which had been obese where so beca

That might depend a lot on the country you are in/from. The huge majority of (similar aged) people I had meet between 16-20 which had been obese where so because of "health issues" not directly related to them eating unhealthy being lazy. As such it's not surprising if you have problems changing it because "just" eating healthy and doing sports is far from enough to fix it. And trying to fix it with that is often a task needing far more discipline and self control then the large majority of humans (independent of weight) have. I mean let's be honest the difficulty many of this people face is way higher then the difficulty for a young(1) health male to get a black belt in Judo, Karate or similar. (1): Start training with ~14 or earlier, through not necessary with high commitment, then at some point later (e.g. 16,18,20) added commitment trying to get a black belt.

maccard 5y ago
Are health issues unrelated to obesity the primary cause of obesity in under 18s? Also, I specifically never called anyone out as lazy. The majority of obesity is overeating (a single Starbucks muffin is a 10k run). Yes there are people with imbalances/medication that are outliers but most people aren't outliers. I specifically called out a relationship with food being something that's carried into adulthood as the cause of the relationship between those figures. An obese 14 year old may have some underlying health condition but is more likely to be a victim of socioeconomic problems; lack of access to healthier and more balanced foods, or to have obese parents (which appears to be a good indicator for childhood obesity). Neither of these are easy solves, and the blame doesn't lie with an individual, but it does explain that someone who is obese as a child is more likely to be obese as an adult.
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  There was a recent article discussed here that made the case that our obesity epidemic was primarily caused by something environmental, not by individual eating choices. It seemed pretty convincing.
- dathinab 5y ago
  > Are health issues unrelated to obesity the primary cause of obesity in under 18s? Idk, I can only speak about people in my environment. Where I can only remember one case which might have been because of overeating and I say might because I simple don't know. Multiple of the obese people I did know had a more controlled and some times far more healthy diet then most people I know. Many cases I know did slowly but continuously got bigger, i.e. something which can totally happen without overeating. I also had meet people the other way around, like needing to consume ~6000+ kcal a day when they don't do sports or they are at risk of becoming severely underweight... > called anyone out as lazy. The main reason I mentioned sport is because I know of a case where the person had a controlled diet and did more sport then most other people in class and still looked quite square, from what I learned this person slowly over multiple years got more and more weight without being able to lose any of it. > . The majority of obesity is overeating (a single Starbucks muffin is a 10k run). I'm not sure if it's the majority. It's definitely a thing, and very often a thing for extreme cases. It also might very well play a big role in countries with unusual many and many unusual extreme cases of obesity. But many of the cases I know did slowly accumulate weight over years without being able to lose weight starting from a very very young age on.

maccard 5y ago

Are health issues unrelated to obesity the primary cause of obesity in under 18s? Also, I specifically never called anyone out as lazy. The majority of obesity is overeating (a single Starbucks muffin is a 10k run). Yes there are people with imbalances/medication that are outliers but most people aren't outliers. I specifically called out a relationship with food being something that's carried into adulthood as the cause of the relationship between those figures. An obese 14 year old may have some underlying health condition but is more likely to be a victim of socioeconomic problems; lack of access to healthier and more balanced foods, or to have obese parents (which appears to be a good indicator for childhood obesity). Neither of these are easy solves, and the blame doesn't lie with an individual, but it does explain that someone who is obese as a child is more likely to be obese as an adult.

amanaplanacanal 5y ago
There was a recent article discussed here that made the case that our obesity epidemic was primarily caused by something environmental, not by individual eating choices. It seemed pretty convincing.
dathinab 5y ago
> Are health issues unrelated to obesity the primary cause of obesity in under 18s? Idk, I can only speak about people in my environment. Where I can only remember one case which might have been because of overeating and I say might because I simple don't know. Multiple of the obese people I did know had a more controlled and some times far more healthy diet then most people I know. Many cases I know did slowly but continuously got bigger, i.e. something which can totally happen without overeating. I also had meet people the other way around, like needing to consume ~6000+ kcal a day when they don't do sports or they are at risk of becoming severely underweight... > called anyone out as lazy. The main reason I mentioned sport is because I know of a case where the person had a controlled diet and did more sport then most other people in class and still looked quite square, from what I learned this person slowly over multiple years got more and more weight without being able to lose any of it. > . The majority of obesity is overeating (a single Starbucks muffin is a 10k run). I'm not sure if it's the majority. It's definitely a thing, and very often a thing for extreme cases. It also might very well play a big role in countries with unusual many and many unusual extreme cases of obesity. But many of the cases I know did slowly accumulate weight over years without being able to lose weight starting from a very very young age on.