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meta: how can atlasobscura.com operate legally in Europe when the only cookie option is 'confirm'?

by singularity2001 5y ago

convery 5y ago
In the same way popups saying "by continuing to view this site you consent to cookies" do? The user is informed and the cookie is(/should be) only set once they click a link / button / scroll past the initial view, which means they have taken an 'informed' action regarding cookies.
- MereInterest 5y ago
  That conforms to the earlier EU cookie directive, but not to the GDPR. Under the GDPR, consent much be freely and explicitly given, and must be as easy to revoke as it is to give. Clicking a link or scrolling down is not explicit. Since use of the site is conditional on accepting the tracking, the consent isn't freely given. Since there is no button to reject the cookies, it is harder to reject the tracking than it is to accept. Failing all three conditions for acquiring consent, my conclusion is that the site is blatantly violating the GDPR.
snowwrestler 5y ago
Who says it is operating in Europe? Just because you can reach it with a browser from Europe does not mean it has a business nexus in the EU. Yes I know the EU claims that GDPR covers the entire world, but the practical reality is that they do not have overseas strike forces going after small web publishers for cookie banners.
- Twixes 5y ago
  TBH there isn't even a domestic enforcement of cookie preferences, no one actually gives a damn it seems. Violations of handling personal data – fines do happen for that. Cookies – nope, you won't even get a notice.
Rexxar 5y ago
I have blocked the popup and I block third parties requests and I have only two cookies at the moment : ao_cookies_ok:0 eu_origin:1 So it's not ok (the irremovable popup), but it could be worse.
bingidingi 5y ago
there are so many sites running afoul to gdpr technically that it would be impossible to penalize all of them
newdude116 5y ago
I have installed the "I don't care about cookies" plug-in. All cookies are deleted when I close my browser.

meta: how can atlasobscura.com operate legally in Europe when the only cookie option is 'confirm'?

In the same way popups saying "by continuing to view this site you consent to cookies" do? The user is informed and the cookie is(/should be) only set once they click a link / button / scroll past the initial view, which means they have taken an 'informed' action regarding cookies.

MereInterest 5y ago
That conforms to the earlier EU cookie directive, but not to the GDPR. Under the GDPR, consent much be freely and explicitly given, and must be as easy to revoke as it is to give. Clicking a link or scrolling down is not explicit. Since use of the site is conditional on accepting the tracking, the consent isn't freely given. Since there is no button to reject the cookies, it is harder to reject the tracking than it is to accept. Failing all three conditions for acquiring consent, my conclusion is that the site is blatantly violating the GDPR.

snowwrestler 5y ago

Who says it is operating in Europe? Just because you can reach it with a browser from Europe does not mean it has a business nexus in the EU. Yes I know the EU claims that GDPR covers the entire world, but the practical reality is that they do not have overseas strike forces going after small web publishers for cookie banners.

Twixes 5y ago
TBH there isn't even a domestic enforcement of cookie preferences, no one actually gives a damn it seems. Violations of handling personal data – fines do happen for that. Cookies – nope, you won't even get a notice.

Rexxar 5y ago

I have blocked the popup and I block third parties requests and I have only two cookies at the moment : ao_cookies_ok:0 eu_origin:1 So it's not ok (the irremovable popup), but it could be worse.

bingidingi 5y ago

there are so many sites running afoul to gdpr technically that it would be impossible to penalize all of them

newdude116 5y ago

I have installed the "I don't care about cookies" plug-in. All cookies are deleted when I close my browser.