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We don't host Agora instances, aside from our test instances, so we cannot prevent users from selling illegal content. Any useful technology has the potential f

We don't host Agora instances, aside from our test instances, so we cannot prevent users from selling illegal content. Any useful technology has the potential for abuse, and Agora is no different.

danmaz74 5y ago
Out of curiosity, did you think about the use case for authorities to deal with people selling forbidden images? I'm sure you already know which kind I'm thinking of.
- caslon 5y ago
  The vast majority of people looking for that are just... regular people. Awful people, yes, but no smarter than your average bear. There are hundreds of thousands of those images being transmitted fully-encrypted on WhatsApp, a fully-legal multi-billion dollar platform, every year. And that's just what users self-report![1] Why would any crook bother with Agora when they're already using fully-encrypted platforms like WhatsApp? What would be their thought process in switching? It's not like Bitcoin is particularly difficult to track, anyway. Agora seems completely stupid and pointless, but let's not pretend that they're doing something disastrously morally harmful. More than likely, it's just a platform that will die out in a few months. Best-case scenario, it serves as a honeypot for people with Coinbase accounts that want to break the law. It's actually easier to track than people transmitting these sorts of things over centralized, encrypted platforms. [1] A tweet by Will Cathcart, who's the corporate head of WhatsApp at Facebook. https://twitter.com/wcathcart/status/1423701475595755524 https://twitter.com/wcathcart/status/1423701475595755524
  - danmaz74 5y ago
    My point is that that use case will very easily attract attention from authorities if it will make it easier to make money with those images.
pharmakom 5y ago
This will be an issue for anyone who hosts it. Is there a plan for your users?
- rodarmor 5y ago
  Can you explain why it will be an issue for anyone who hosts it? The host determines what content is available. Agora does not yet support user uploads.
  - pharmakom 5y ago
    My mistake - I thought this was a “filebin”

We don't host Agora instances, aside from our test instances, so we cannot prevent users from selling illegal content. Any useful technology has the potential for abuse, and Agora is no different.

danmaz74 5y ago

Out of curiosity, did you think about the use case for authorities to deal with people selling forbidden images? I'm sure you already know which kind I'm thinking of.

caslon 5y ago
The vast majority of people looking for that are just... regular people. Awful people, yes, but no smarter than your average bear. There are hundreds of thousands of those images being transmitted fully-encrypted on WhatsApp, a fully-legal multi-billion dollar platform, every year. And that's just what users self-report![1] Why would any crook bother with Agora when they're already using fully-encrypted platforms like WhatsApp? What would be their thought process in switching? It's not like Bitcoin is particularly difficult to track, anyway. Agora seems completely stupid and pointless, but let's not pretend that they're doing something disastrously morally harmful. More than likely, it's just a platform that will die out in a few months. Best-case scenario, it serves as a honeypot for people with Coinbase accounts that want to break the law. It's actually easier to track than people transmitting these sorts of things over centralized, encrypted platforms. [1] A tweet by Will Cathcart, who's the corporate head of WhatsApp at Facebook. https://twitter.com/wcathcart/status/1423701475595755524 https://twitter.com/wcathcart/status/1423701475595755524
- danmaz74 5y ago
  My point is that that use case will very easily attract attention from authorities if it will make it easier to make money with those images.

pharmakom 5y ago

This will be an issue for anyone who hosts it. Is there a plan for your users?

rodarmor 5y ago
Can you explain why it will be an issue for anyone who hosts it? The host determines what content is available. Agora does not yet support user uploads.
- pharmakom 5y ago
  My mistake - I thought this was a “filebin”