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The same reason the ACLU challenges the no-fly list also serves to challenge driver's licenses, and actually exposes that we are accepting very strong prior res
by R0b0t1 5y ago
The same reason the ACLU challenges the no-fly list also serves to challenge driver's licenses, and actually exposes that we are accepting very strong prior restraint on the right to travel. You can keep people from driving, but not proactively.
Some other arguments though, yes, they go too far.
- tptacek 5y agoI'm not even saying Libertarians are wrong about drivers licenses, just that they're idiosyncratic and unpopular on that issue, and it's worth knowing what you're getting yourself into if you take their word for everything. I think Reason is generally pretty sane! (But they were idiosyncratic and unpopular on the opiate crisis, by way of example.)
- seibelj 5y agoThe drivers license, “but who will pave the roads?!” criticism of libertarians is the laziest, no-thought method and shows you have no interest in rational discussion. It’s like if someone is a Democrat and I immediately accuse them of wanting to seize the means of production. Not every libertarian believes in the most extreme viewpoints of the ideology. Some very basic shrinking of the ever-expanding state would be a fine start. The privatization of the roads could come after we stop increasing our debt by tens of trillions of dollars.
- tptacek 5y agoI didn't say anything about "who will pave the roads", you did. But I mean, there's a reason that keeps coming up! Regarding seizing the means of production: see my previous comment, where I said that is indeed an ideology you'd want to be aware of.