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> we should never expect that it is reasonable to conduct mass surveillance on all the roads in the country to find out where people go all the time. Utility a
by atatatat 5y ago
> we should never expect that it is reasonable to conduct mass surveillance on all the roads in the country to find out where people go all the time.
Utility and traffic light poles have cameras and license plate scanners that can capture up to 5000 plates/sec, even in smaller suburban areas, at an increasingly alarming rate.
EZ Pass and similar are scanned in lots of places that aren't toll plazas — at least that is possibly agreed to via a terms of use.
- Teever 5y agoThese are facts but they don't answer the question "Why do people think this kind of stuff is reasonable and positive for society?"
- Spooky23 5y agoBecause it solves crimes. I was on a jury where the police were able to track down a hit and run driver who killed a teenager within about 45 minutes due to red light cameras.
- tsimionescu 5y agoSolving crimes is a minor bonus for society. If they had prevented the driver from killing the teen, then that would have been a much more compelling argument. But people running after a fatal crash doesn't make situation much worse, and the incentive to avoid fatal crashes doesn't change massively if you know for sure that you will be caught rather than being almost entirely sure.
- netizen-936824 5y agoIn most of the comments about solving crime, its never about prevention but rather retribution.
- Teever 5y agoThere are lots of things that we could do to solve crimes but we don't because of the negative effects of doing them. Torture is a good example.
- tcmart14 5y agoTorture is not a good example. If you torture someone enough they will tell you whatever you want them to tell you in order to stop it. Mike Baker talks about why it was pointless for the CIA to torture someone and why when they train people how to handle being capture, they tell them to tell the truth with a little information redacted.