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I think in long run AWS will just lost their momentum or community support and people will realize AWS won't be able to deliver. I had used AWS hosted Elastics

I think in long run AWS will just lost their momentum or community support and people will realize AWS won't be able to deliver. I had used AWS hosted Elasticsearch and it's subpar even at fundamental level. That signal to me they just don't care at all about search and this whole opensearch thing is just they want to be look like a good guy. If AWS doesn't even care about their own UI/UX of the dashboard or the UX of their API, how can I expect them to do a good job at Elasticsearch? They right now still ride on the high and stay close to ES, but the further into the future, when they drift from ES, expect to have a crappy API from them. In fact, looking at the Github Opensearch repo for Es and dashboard(Kibana equivalent) they are clearly less active than ES. So how can we expect them to keep the pace in next few year?

reducesuffering 5y ago
Oh they care, there are just some major issues with execution. Amazon, because of their much-panned internal culture, struggles to hire the required developers for many areas. Elasticsearch... is especially bad; because that org is absolutely swamped with operating issues. It's a pressure cooker inside a pressure cooker. There are so many high-priority tickets waking up devs in the middle of the night all the time. Many reports of developers juggling 60+ high severity tickets a week. Then because of this, few people want to work there because the conditions are extra bad and the current devs leaving. It's been a mess for a long time. Not for lack of care about the business opportunity, but because management is unable to figure out a healthy way of approaching it.
- nindalf 5y ago
  I know a developer on the ES AWS team who said the same thing almost verbatim before they quit this year.
  - imglorp 5y ago
    It sounds like they've done the math leading to cheap out both on headcount and on licensing FOSS. How long until users get annoyed enough to use other clouds?

reducesuffering 5y ago

Oh they care, there are just some major issues with execution. Amazon, because of their much-panned internal culture, struggles to hire the required developers for many areas. Elasticsearch... is especially bad; because that org is absolutely swamped with operating issues. It's a pressure cooker inside a pressure cooker. There are so many high-priority tickets waking up devs in the middle of the night all the time. Many reports of developers juggling 60+ high severity tickets a week. Then because of this, few people want to work there because the conditions are extra bad and the current devs leaving. It's been a mess for a long time. Not for lack of care about the business opportunity, but because management is unable to figure out a healthy way of approaching it.

nindalf 5y ago
I know a developer on the ES AWS team who said the same thing almost verbatim before they quit this year.
- imglorp 5y ago
  It sounds like they've done the math leading to cheap out both on headcount and on licensing FOSS. How long until users get annoyed enough to use other clouds?