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Isn't it a bit... terrifying to buy and eat food, when nobody wants to tell you what that food actually is??
by a_bonobo 5y ago
Isn't it a bit... terrifying to buy and eat food, when nobody wants to tell you what that food actually is??
- hyperpallium2 5y agocoke secret recipe, KFC secret herbs and spices
- a_bonobo 5y agoone's sugar water, one is at least identifiable chicken! it would be closer to KFC secret herbs and spices on bushmeat
- dehrmann 5y agoThey at least have to be generally regarded safe. I will say that as a vegetarian, "natural flavors" can be pretty annoying.
- edoceo 5y agoKFC recipe is out there. Saw it on Reddit a few years ago. Followed it. Damn good chicken.
- aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA 5y agoI thought that process required a pressure fryer. Do you have one?
- edoceo 5y agoI don't. You can get the flavour w/o that cooker, but the juicy-ness requires it. Those things are like boats tho. Better to have a friend with one ;)
- girishso 5y agoDon't they have to follow strict regulations and pass various tests?
- derefr 5y agoFor both of those, you can put them through some chromatography/spectrography/etc. and figure out essentially what's in them — what ingredients, in what ratios. What you won't find out is the particular process required to get those ingredients "formatted" the right way to taste like the result. (E.g. Coke apparently does some fancy, hard-to-replicate-at-home kind of micronized emulsification to the flavoring oils that go into it, to get them into suspension in a water-based drink in a way that results in a smooth—but not viscous or lingering—mouth-feel. That process doesn't change what's in Coke; it just changes how it's in there.) Also, in both of those cases, FDA inspectors know not only the what but also the how, as they check the manufacturing process to ensure that they're putting in what they (privately) claim to be putting in, no more and no less. And we can then trust the FDA to not let them put anything too "weird" in there, while they can also trust the FDA to not tell everyone what they know about the process.
- coldcode 5y agoWhen I was in college in the 70's we went to a Miller brewery where they told us about some blue liquid they poured into Miller High Life that allowed them to ship the beer in clear bottles instead of brown. It came in tanker cars full; they claimed the FDA didn't know what it was (don't think I believed them).
- goldenkey 5y agoLikely was just a kind of food coloring. Simply by changing the tint of the beverage, one can prevent absorption of a band of light.
- kevinmchugh 5y agoI don't know what they used in the seventies, but now they use hop oil extract. The extraction process eliminates the possibility of the skunking/lightstruck reaction. Most colorless glass bottled beer use that today, though not all. The green bottle beers mostly don't, though they're still susceptible to skunking.
- muzani 5y agoHealth authorities know those. Street food isn't regulated that way.
- noduerme 5y agoI know, I thought that was funny. But does anyone really know what's in a Dodger dog?
- mdorazio 5y agoSure do - you could even buy them yourself with ingredients list and everything until they switched vendors this year: https://www.amazon.com/Farmer-John-Dodger-Wieners-Package/dp/B00CICBYZ8 https://www.amazon.com/Farmer-John-Dodger-Wieners-Package/dp...
- noduerme 5y agoBest worst stadium left in the country. Just a great mix of fans. And I never skip a Dodger dog. I'm amused but not surprised (guess I knew) that Farmer John is retailing the contents of that long, succulent piece of head cheese street meat around the country. It really always was special dog. But what sort of sick lunatic would order a pack of that shit off Amazon? If you ever catch me eating a dodger dog outside of chavez ravine, please just take me to the hospital and have me committed.
- wombatmobile 5y agoDo you feel that way when you walk into a Subway? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/22/subway-sandwiches-tuna-lab-test https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/22/subway-sandw...
- bagels 5y agoYes. That is why I don't.
- danuker 5y agoDe-AMP-ed link (mine was redirecting to the favicon): https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/22/subway-sandwiches-tuna-lab-test https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/22/subway-sandw... I wonder whether it's canned, and whether sterilizing it can make the DNA unreadable (broken down).
- wombatmobile 5y agoThanks. Corrected.
- projektfu 5y agoWonder no more. The answer is that the NYT is likely overstating the power of the testing they did. https://www.seafoodsource.com/news/foodservice-retail/subway-defends-tuna-as-top-tuna-testing-lab-questions-dna-report https://www.seafoodsource.com/news/foodservice-retail/subway...
- djur 5y agoSubway is perfectly willing to admit that most of their cold cuts are turkey-based, so it seems extra unlikely that they'd go to the trouble of creating an ersatz tuna and then hiding that fact. Especially considering how cheap tuna is, comparatively. The way you cheap out on tuna salad is adding more mayo and thickeners and other fillers, not by inventing some kind of psuedofish.
- NavinF 5y agoDoes cooked and processed food normally contain intact DNA that can be sequenced? Seems like those researchers suck at their job if they failed to figure out what the tuna is made of and still insist on drawing a conclusion based on their lack of success.
- spoonjim 5y agoWhat on earth is in a Cheeto? Far more mysterious than this snack, which is clearly some plant matter with some salt and spices that other people eat regularly without falling over dead.
- djur 5y agoCorn meal, powdered cheese, oil, and salt, mostly.
- goldenkey 5y agoThe powder is a cheese-like seasoning. It is not cheese. First ingredient of the seasoning: whey. Whey is not cheese; it’s the leftover product you get while making cheese.
- addingnumbers 5y agoCheetos are extruded cornmeal paste that's been fried and dusted with powdered cheese, salt, and MSG
- JoeAltmaier 5y agoThat powder is a trade secret. Every year they make it finer, to coat your taste buds more perfectly and have a more intense flavor. But nobody is questioning if eating microscopic particles of (what?) is healthy or has side effects. It's tasty! Don't get between me and my Cheetos!
- mPReDiToR 5y agoCut Me Own Throat Dibbler made an entire business of selling "meat" pies. On several continents. In differing time periods. People eat "kebab" "gyro" or whatever the local term is for doner (suspiciously has a single n, shouldn't be pronounced the way it is) meat in a pitta regularly after large quantities of alcohol, whereas they eschew the things when sober.
- andybak 5y agoI'll eat shawarma, gyros any time day or night. Food of the gods. UK style doner I'm a little more circumspect about but that's mainly because of processing rather than provence.
- q-rews 5y agoMy logic is: If others eat it, it’s fine. It also helps to eat it with someone who’s somewhat familiar with it. My first time in Thailand I ate a disgusting salty soup with a spoon. It turns out you’re supposed to dip vegetables in it. What I did was the equivalent of eating ketchup with a spoon, except it was many times more flavorful. Now I love it: น้ำพริกกะปิ
- CarelessExpert 5y ago> My logic is: If others eat it, it’s fine People used to eat radium, inhale mercury, and play in piles of asbestos before we came to understand their long term health effects. You might want to rethink this.
- q-rews 5y agoThat risk is fine to me. I meant it more as a “people eat it, so it must be likable” than “people eat it, so it won’t kill me.”