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Elastic.co one thousand percent. I just finished a migration from AWS managed ES to Elastic.co. You literally only need to use both for a couple of hours to not

Elastic.co one thousand percent. I just finished a migration from AWS managed ES to Elastic.co. You literally only need to use both for a couple of hours to notice that AWS treats ES as an afterthought. I could name many things such as better security, interface and cold/warm storage configuration.

taf2 5y ago
Not looking at either for manger service… just the open source projects- features etc…
- kyriakos 5y ago
  Then you have no reason not to go with elastic unless you host on aws. From the drama described in the article it sounds like elastic will try to keep clients working only on its own fork while amazon will play catch up.
  - nextaccountic 5y ago
    But ElasticSearch isn't open source, it's only source available.
    - kyriakos 5y ago
      https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch They changed the license but its still open source
      - pritambaral 5y ago
        That is not open source. That is source available. The SSPL is not an open source license.
        kyriakos 5y ago
        It's a matter of interpretation really and more of the perspective of the reasons you require something to have its source code available. For example if you just need to be able to scrutinize the code for security purposes then it's good enough.
        taf2 5y ago
        This looks pretty closed source to me: https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/blob/master/x-pack/plugin/ml/src/main/java/org/elasticsearch/xpack/ml/aggs/DoubleArray.java https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/blob/master/x-pack/...
        mixedCase 5y ago
        That's what "source available" means. Open Source is a much stricter definition, which includes not discriminating what your user is going to do with the software. From https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd > 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
        altdataseller 5y ago
        For a lot of developers, there is no practical difference because they are not building a managed service around Elasticsearch (like Amazon is). They are using it for their own private, commercial purposes, whatever it may be.
        maccolgan 5y ago
        That doesn't magically make it open source
        altdataseller 5y ago
        OK, sure it's not open source then. Most people don't care.
  - ultrabunga 5y ago
    I'll call bullshit to that: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticsearch-service/latest/developerguide/ultrawarm.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticsearch-service/latest/dev... Does elastic have something like it?
    - altdataseller 5y ago
      Elastic has frozen tier, which is a step beyond what AWS is offering.
      - simlevesque 5y ago
        They have 4 steps if I recall clearly.
altdataseller 5y ago
doesn't AWS Elasticsearch have the concept of UltraWarm? Isn't that like cold/warm?

taf2 5y ago

Not looking at either for manger service… just the open source projects- features etc…

kyriakos 5y ago
Then you have no reason not to go with elastic unless you host on aws. From the drama described in the article it sounds like elastic will try to keep clients working only on its own fork while amazon will play catch up.
- nextaccountic 5y ago
  But ElasticSearch isn't open source, it's only source available.
  - kyriakos 5y ago
    https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch They changed the license but its still open source
    - pritambaral 5y ago
      That is not open source. That is source available. The SSPL is not an open source license.
      - kyriakos 5y ago
        It's a matter of interpretation really and more of the perspective of the reasons you require something to have its source code available. For example if you just need to be able to scrutinize the code for security purposes then it's good enough.
        taf2 5y ago
        This looks pretty closed source to me: https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/blob/master/x-pack/plugin/ml/src/main/java/org/elasticsearch/xpack/ml/aggs/DoubleArray.java https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/blob/master/x-pack/...
        mixedCase 5y ago
        That's what "source available" means. Open Source is a much stricter definition, which includes not discriminating what your user is going to do with the software. From https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd > 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
        altdataseller 5y ago
        For a lot of developers, there is no practical difference because they are not building a managed service around Elasticsearch (like Amazon is). They are using it for their own private, commercial purposes, whatever it may be.
        maccolgan 5y ago
        That doesn't magically make it open source
        altdataseller 5y ago
        OK, sure it's not open source then. Most people don't care.
- ultrabunga 5y ago
  I'll call bullshit to that: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticsearch-service/latest/developerguide/ultrawarm.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticsearch-service/latest/dev... Does elastic have something like it?
  - altdataseller 5y ago
    Elastic has frozen tier, which is a step beyond what AWS is offering.
    - simlevesque 5y ago
      They have 4 steps if I recall clearly.

altdataseller 5y ago

doesn't AWS Elasticsearch have the concept of UltraWarm? Isn't that like cold/warm?