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Looking to upgrade a cluster running 7.5 - should I go open search or elastic? Who will be the better maintainer? Reminds me of Mariadb and MySQL… either path

• simlevesque 5y ago
  Elastic.co one thousand percent. I just finished a migration from AWS managed ES to Elastic.co. You literally only need to use both for a couple of hours to notice that AWS treats ES as an afterthought. I could name many things such as better security, interface and cold/warm storage configuration.
  • taf2 5y ago
    Not looking at either for manger service… just the open source projects- features etc…
    • kyriakos 5y ago
      Then you have no reason not to go with elastic unless you host on aws. From the drama described in the article it sounds like elastic will try to keep clients working only on its own fork while amazon will play catch up.
      • nextaccountic 5y ago
        But ElasticSearch isn't open source, it's only source available.
        • kyriakos 5y ago
          https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch They changed the license but its still open source
          • pritambaral 5y ago
            That is not open source. That is source available. The SSPL is not an open source license.
            • kyriakos 5y ago
              It's a matter of interpretation really and more of the perspective of the reasons you require something to have its source code available. For example if you just need to be able to scrutinize the code for security purposes then it's good enough.
              • taf2 5y ago
                This looks pretty closed source to me: https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/blob/master/x-pack/plugin/ml/src/main/java/org/elasticsearch/xpack/ml/aggs/DoubleArray.java https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/blob/master/x-pack/...
              • mixedCase 5y ago
                That's what "source available" means. Open Source is a much stricter definition, which includes not discriminating what your user is going to do with the software. From https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd > 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
                • altdataseller 5y ago
                  For a lot of developers, there is no practical difference because they are not building a managed service around Elasticsearch (like Amazon is). They are using it for their own private, commercial purposes, whatever it may be.
                  • maccolgan 5y ago
      • ultrabunga 5y ago
        I'll call bullshit to that: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticsearch-service/latest/developerguide/ultrawarm.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticsearch-service/latest/dev... Does elastic have something like it?
        • altdataseller 5y ago
          Elastic has frozen tier, which is a step beyond what AWS is offering.
          • simlevesque 5y ago
            They have 4 steps if I recall clearly.
  • altdataseller 5y ago
    doesn't AWS Elasticsearch have the concept of UltraWarm? Isn't that like cold/warm?
• jgb1984 5y ago
  Stick with elasticsearch of course, it's "the real thing", made by the people who have been working on the product for over 11 years. That's what I do. I wouldn't touch things related to Amazon with a 10 feet pole.
• josephcsible 5y ago
  If you care about the open source philosophy, then definitely go OpenSearch.