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> I also don't understand why Apple is pushing the CSAM scanning for iCloud into the device Because it's a pretense for further surveillance.
by dmm 5y ago
> I also don't understand why Apple is pushing the CSAM scanning for iCloud into the device
Because it's a pretense for further surveillance.
- caeril 5y agoHe understands, he's just playing the game.
- alisonkisk 5y agoBecause they don't want to decrypt your non-child-porn files!
- wyager 5y agoiCloud images are not encrypted. This is a concession Apple had already made to the FBI.
- Niksko 5y agoOne theory put out by John Gruber was that the scanning was being done in device so that they could E2E encrypt iCloud in the future. So they satisfy the 'think of the children people', while giving you strong encryption elsewhere. Time will tell.
- simondotau 5y ago> Because it's a pretense for further surveillance. Alternatively, it could be a way of deflating future demands for increased surveillance. CSAM is one of the few emotional strings Governments have to insist upon surveillance. If we can mark CSAM as "solved" using basic fingerprinting then it's harder to push for real surveillance. We're currently seeing the widespread adoption of end-to-end encryption. If we don't have an answer to CSAM, then it will be used as a bludgeon to demand real back doors which can be exploited without manufacturer knowledge.
- fmajid 5y agoAppeasing the authoritarians never works. On the contrary, it sets a precedent that is used to make more demands. The ability to scan for transformation-resistant image fingerprints will be used to identify whistleblowers who disclosed documents that embarrass the powers-that be (think Chelsea Manning, Reality Winner or the Panama Papers). It’s a matter of when, not if.
- simondotau 5y agoThis isn't to appease the authoritarians, it's to diminish the argument which elected authoritarians use to get their electorate to manufacture consent for their authoritarian ideas. What Apple has done isn't a slip on the slippery slope. There's only one greased up slide in the playground and that's the presence of closed source software which auto-updates. As long as you are willing to accept closed source software which can update itself, the slope is slippery. This very public announcement by Apple doesn't change the angle of the slide, because the risk of someone sneaking in "bad" fingerprinting wasn't any less last year.