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"Argentina has been poor since the advent of Peronism" This argument is quite short-sighted, as it doesn't even try to understand or explain October 17, 1945.

"Argentina has been poor since the advent of Peronism" This argument is quite short-sighted, as it doesn't even try to understand or explain October 17, 1945. It just brushes it away like a nuisance that breaks that idillic Argentina previous to the Great Depression with a wealthy working class that never was.

erikw 5y ago
Sorry, I didn't intend to apply a causative relationship, and should have worded it better. What I mean is that the policies of modern Peronist ideology clearly aren't effective, but (outside of the failure of the centre-right Macri administration) I haven't seen any serious attempts at something new. It's always "More wealth distribution!", "More grandiose infrastructure projects!", "More involvement of the national government in the economy!", and things along those lines. Edit: To clarify what I mean about Macri- no one has been able to marshal a national consensus to try something new. I still can't believe Macri got as far as he did. Most of my friends call Macri a far-right extremist, but I would say that the policies of the Macri administration were centre-right by the standards of most western democracies, and would be considered leftist by US standards.
- mrleinad 5y ago
  Macri didn't do anything new. He cut back spending on stuff he couldn't see profit from like public education and healthcare, added more public employees, and took inordinate amounts of external debt. It's true that he'd be considered a leftist by US standars, but that's comparing oranges to apples. It's so hard to pinpoint what you mean by the "policies of modern Peronist ideology" that I can't even begin to discuss it, as they're so varied over the last 30 years. I hope the failure of Macri's government swings the pendulum all the way to the other side and breaks the cycle of going back to those policies from time to time, as the results are clear as day.

erikw 5y ago

Sorry, I didn't intend to apply a causative relationship, and should have worded it better. What I mean is that the policies of modern Peronist ideology clearly aren't effective, but (outside of the failure of the centre-right Macri administration) I haven't seen any serious attempts at something new. It's always "More wealth distribution!", "More grandiose infrastructure projects!", "More involvement of the national government in the economy!", and things along those lines. Edit: To clarify what I mean about Macri- no one has been able to marshal a national consensus to try something new. I still can't believe Macri got as far as he did. Most of my friends call Macri a far-right extremist, but I would say that the policies of the Macri administration were centre-right by the standards of most western democracies, and would be considered leftist by US standards.

mrleinad 5y ago
Macri didn't do anything new. He cut back spending on stuff he couldn't see profit from like public education and healthcare, added more public employees, and took inordinate amounts of external debt. It's true that he'd be considered a leftist by US standars, but that's comparing oranges to apples. It's so hard to pinpoint what you mean by the "policies of modern Peronist ideology" that I can't even begin to discuss it, as they're so varied over the last 30 years. I hope the failure of Macri's government swings the pendulum all the way to the other side and breaks the cycle of going back to those policies from time to time, as the results are clear as day.