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> "Employees said Suleyman encouraged them to use private chat groups on Signal and Telegram for work conversations, some of which were set up to automatically
by Ftuuky 5y ago
> "Employees said Suleyman encouraged them to use private chat groups on Signal and Telegram for work conversations, some of which were set up to automatically delete messages after a set period. Employees were also on occasion asked to delete messages from their phones, a former employee said. They were also told to notify the group once they had done so.
> "Mustafa was super paranoid about Google spying on him, so he didn't want to use corporate apps, even though we were doing corporate work," one former employee said.
Interesting but I can't wrap my head around its implications.
- PragmaticPulp 5y agoWhenever I've encountered managers refusing to use company-provided communications for company work, it's one of two explanations: (Note these apply specifically to managers communicating with their teams. I'm not including ICs who just prefer to not use company comms) 1) Leadership has developed a reputation for routinely reading people's private communications. Specifically, not just for investigating specific events like harassment claims, but just to surveil people as lazy way of seeing how things are going instead of doing the hard work of actually talking to employees to see what's going on. or 2) The person is behaving in a way that would be very incriminating, so they force the team to use communication channels that won't leave a record behind. I can think of one manager who was exceptionally kind and caring in company e-mails and Slack messages, but would constantly berate people from his personal Skype account. If you were on his team, you had to be available in both Slack and Skype, and you could usually guess the tone of the communications based on which app pinged you.
- renewiltord 5y agoThat second anecdote is absurd in its ridiculousness. What a crazy person that guy must have been!
- r00fus 5y agoI have worked for one, at a time, also. The feedback loop given the lack of pushback from underlings must really foster a condition where such a person thinks that's the only way to be successful, and could even be rewarded for it when they deliver on projects. I'm glad I don't work in such an abusive environment with my current employment/manager but things change...
- Igelau 5y agoSounds like someone who has seen way too much of how the sausage gets made.
- matheusmoreira 5y agoSounds like a reasonable guy. I wouldn't want Google spying on me either. It's amazing that he made everyone use Signal.
- xdennis 5y ago> > Mustafa was super paranoid about Google spying on him > Interesting but I can't wrap my head around its implications. It's not paranoia when you're on the inside. It's like saying Snowden is paranoid for typing his password with a hood over his fingers.