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>> When I ask ‘what did I say that made you thunk that’, can you explain why you rarely answer? > Okay, sure. > When you ask me to try and justify why I think
by zepto 5y ago
>> When I ask ‘what did I say that made you thunk that’, can you explain why you rarely answer?
> Okay, sure.
> When you ask me to try and justify why I think you hold your position,
At this point it’s hard to read you as honest because of the frequency with which you misrepresent me. I have to assume you are unaware of this.
I am talking about why you won’t identify which words of mine lead to your misunderstandings of my position.
Why would you represent that as asking you to ‘justify’ your interpretation? That isn’t what I’m doing, and more importantly it’s not something I said. I’m just asking you to tell me what you are interpreting so I can see if what I said was ambiguous and if so how.
> I interpret that as a distraction (hopefully a good faith one).
A distraction from what? Are you not seeking to understand? Later in this comment you claim to want to know what my views are. If you ignore clarifying questions as a ‘distraction’, it seems likely that misunderstandings will keep arising.
> I don't want to argue on a meta-level about why I got confused about your comments,
Who is asking you to ‘argue on a meta-level’? I am asking you to simply say what words you are referring to when a misunderstanding becomes apparent.
> I want to know what you believe.
I recommend trying to get to the bottom of misunderstandings then.
> I'm frustrated that you keep trying to dig into "why are you confused"
You misrepresent me again. Can you not see that I haven’t asked ‘why are you confused’?
I have asked what you are referring to when you attribute a view to me that I don’t think is contained in what I wrote.
> instead of just clarifying your position.
I could clarify my position if you were willing to tell me what I said that lead to your interpretations of my views.
- danShumway 5y ago> I could clarify my position if you were willing to tell me what I said that lead to your interpretations of my views. Okay, holy crud, I'm out. I have zero interest in the evolution of this conversation from a debate about privacy/encryption tradeoffs, into "let's figure out who's arguing in good faith", into "explain to me why you think I'm asking you to explain to me what I'm thinking". I've made a quick ~$5 donation to Matrix.org (https://imgur.com/a/wVj2neA https://imgur.com/a/wVj2neA) in the hope that their current work with on-by-default E2E encryption and P2P community hosting/connections will ideally make this entire conversation irrelevant in the future. I wish you the best in coming up with your technical solutions.
- zepto 5y ago> "explain to me why you think I'm asking you to explain to me what I'm thinking" Again, not an honest interpretation of anything I have said. What I said was extremely clear. I think it’s reasonable to conclude that you are deliberately misrepresenting me, and have been all along. My conclusion is that you aren’t actually an honest person. I’m sorry.