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Not everyone was lucky enough to have a chill dealer. It reminds me of joe Rogans bit about how in order to buy this harmless plant you have to interact with a

by reidjs 5y ago

Not everyone was lucky enough to have a chill dealer. It reminds me of joe Rogans bit about how in order to buy this harmless plant you have to interact with a criminal. Oh, and commit a crime. Legalization is 100% the right thing. You can grow it yourself or get it delivered if you hate the dispensary so much.

dylan604 5y ago
>You can grow it yourself Yes, you can legally do this where it is allowed, but other than that, it is pretty much a copout. Not everyone can grow things well. Not everyone has a green thumb. Also, weed is not the easiest plants to grow and takes a lot of time and effort to get quality flower. It's also not like you can just walk over to plant(s) whenever you want to smoke up. The plant has cycles of when it is making flower and when it's not. Now, you can trick it out with grow tents, lights, hydroponics, etc, but now you're a freaking grow house and most people definitely don't want that.
- chillwaves 5y ago
  How much easier can it be than literally growing from a plant?
  - dylan604 5y ago
    I love when the inexperienced stand up like an expert. There's a huge difference between having a plant that is alive and a plant that is producing quality flower of enough quantity to make a difference. There is much better info on the web a simple search will show you compared to me describing to someone that already thinks it's super easy.
    - chillwaves 5y ago
      That's not my question. My question is how much easier can it be? I'm just not sure what you are complaining about. Give me an example of a more accessible drug than marijuana.
      - dylan604 5y ago
        Sugar Edit: Didn't mean to post a one word reply While it's not classified as a drug, it's definitely addicting. Also, you question is very leading. More accessible? Depends on location. There are plenty of places where meth is much more accessible than anything else including alcohol.
        DoreenMichele 5y ago
        Coffee. Tea. Coca cola products with extract from the coxa plant (cocaine removed, other medicinal compounds retained), cinnamon which is a blood thinner, olives and hot peppers and myriad other things which have medicinal uses. Edit: I forgot to say alcohol for those folks who think of "drugs" primarily as recreational drugs. Not everyone is into getting high. Some people have other interests in "drugs."
        Clubber 5y ago
        >While it's not classified as a drug, it's definitely addicting. I'm starting to realize how true this is. I didn't know my beef jerky has sugar in it until they came out with a sugar free version. I assume that's how they get people to eat otherwise garbage food and eat a lot of it. I bet if they starting taking sugar out of everything the US would get a lot healthier real fast. At least make it more obvious if something has sugar than the 15+ variants on nutrition labels. That'll never happen, the US government is already bought, sold and paid for.
        dylan604 5y ago
        To make it worse, a lot of times it's actually high fructose syrup instead of cane sugar in food.
    - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
      It's not called weed because it's hard to grow. If you're not a weed snob and just trying to save a few bucks anything that the plant makes will be fine.
      - freshpots 5y ago
        Try growing a cannabis plant indoors without a pH probe when supplemental nutrients are needed and get back to me. Outdoors is another story but indoor growing has a significant learning curve.
      - dylan604 5y ago
        I have a "friend" with a single solitary plant in "their" backyard right now. It's been growing from a seed since February. It is barely 10" tall. No signs of whether it will be a female or male. It has been getting watered and fertilized with all of the other veggies/herbs in the garden. This plant is not going to be keeping my "friend" in supply of flower for any kind of regular use. You too sound like someone that has never tried growing their own plant. I can tell you from experience, of my "friend", that it takes way more effort. My "friend" is not using lights or anything to trick the plant into doing more like other places do. It's just a green thing with unique leaves in the garden. Edit: Correction, it's barely 20" tall now.
    - 0xld 5y ago
      Correct - there's a big difference between growing standard weed and high grade shit. However, I feel like people in the thread are slightly overstating how hard it is to learn how to grow good weed. I live in a country where smoking and growing weed is illegal. I know people (yes, more than 1) who grow their own using best practices learned from YouTube (and others). pH, heat, nutrients, CO2, light levels, everything is monitored and tweaked. I've been in grow tents with 2 plants inside and grow houses with >50 (highly, highly illegal). It's really not THAT hard, especially if you can follow basic protocols (I.E probably most of HN). It's not exactly rocket science! There are (genuinely) illiterate people doing it as we speak.
  - nom 5y ago
    it's easy to grow the plant, you can put seeds in your garden and it will grow. It's not easy to grow and then process (!) the good product people are used to.
staticassertion 5y ago
Very first sentence is me saying legalization is great and overdue. Feels like it shouldn't be a huge ask that people read the first sentence.
delusional 5y ago
> It reminds me of Joe Rogans bit about how in order to buy this harmless plant you have to interact with a criminal. Oh, and commit a crime. Legalization is 100% the right thing. I'm all for legalization but that's just a really bad take. The whole point with it being criminalized is that you SHOULDN'T buy the plant. Anyone pro criminalization would also probably not call it "harmless". Making it inconvenient and illegal is the point.
- voisin 5y ago
  I think most people pro criminalization simply want to control others. There is objectively far more damage caused by alcohol and I have yet to meet anyone that wants to criminalize cannabis and alcohol.
  - cameldrv 5y ago
    Go to Utah sometime.

by reidjs 5y ago

dylan604 5y ago

>You can grow it yourself Yes, you can legally do this where it is allowed, but other than that, it is pretty much a copout. Not everyone can grow things well. Not everyone has a green thumb. Also, weed is not the easiest plants to grow and takes a lot of time and effort to get quality flower. It's also not like you can just walk over to plant(s) whenever you want to smoke up. The plant has cycles of when it is making flower and when it's not. Now, you can trick it out with grow tents, lights, hydroponics, etc, but now you're a freaking grow house and most people definitely don't want that.

chillwaves 5y ago
How much easier can it be than literally growing from a plant?
- dylan604 5y ago
  I love when the inexperienced stand up like an expert. There's a huge difference between having a plant that is alive and a plant that is producing quality flower of enough quantity to make a difference. There is much better info on the web a simple search will show you compared to me describing to someone that already thinks it's super easy.
  - chillwaves 5y ago
    That's not my question. My question is how much easier can it be? I'm just not sure what you are complaining about. Give me an example of a more accessible drug than marijuana.
    - dylan604 5y ago
      Sugar Edit: Didn't mean to post a one word reply While it's not classified as a drug, it's definitely addicting. Also, you question is very leading. More accessible? Depends on location. There are plenty of places where meth is much more accessible than anything else including alcohol.
      - DoreenMichele 5y ago
        Coffee. Tea. Coca cola products with extract from the coxa plant (cocaine removed, other medicinal compounds retained), cinnamon which is a blood thinner, olives and hot peppers and myriad other things which have medicinal uses. Edit: I forgot to say alcohol for those folks who think of "drugs" primarily as recreational drugs. Not everyone is into getting high. Some people have other interests in "drugs."
      - Clubber 5y ago
        >While it's not classified as a drug, it's definitely addicting. I'm starting to realize how true this is. I didn't know my beef jerky has sugar in it until they came out with a sugar free version. I assume that's how they get people to eat otherwise garbage food and eat a lot of it. I bet if they starting taking sugar out of everything the US would get a lot healthier real fast. At least make it more obvious if something has sugar than the 15+ variants on nutrition labels. That'll never happen, the US government is already bought, sold and paid for.
        dylan604 5y ago
        To make it worse, a lot of times it's actually high fructose syrup instead of cane sugar in food.
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    It's not called weed because it's hard to grow. If you're not a weed snob and just trying to save a few bucks anything that the plant makes will be fine.
    - freshpots 5y ago
      Try growing a cannabis plant indoors without a pH probe when supplemental nutrients are needed and get back to me. Outdoors is another story but indoor growing has a significant learning curve.
    - dylan604 5y ago
      I have a "friend" with a single solitary plant in "their" backyard right now. It's been growing from a seed since February. It is barely 10" tall. No signs of whether it will be a female or male. It has been getting watered and fertilized with all of the other veggies/herbs in the garden. This plant is not going to be keeping my "friend" in supply of flower for any kind of regular use. You too sound like someone that has never tried growing their own plant. I can tell you from experience, of my "friend", that it takes way more effort. My "friend" is not using lights or anything to trick the plant into doing more like other places do. It's just a green thing with unique leaves in the garden. Edit: Correction, it's barely 20" tall now.
  - 0xld 5y ago
    Correct - there's a big difference between growing standard weed and high grade shit. However, I feel like people in the thread are slightly overstating how hard it is to learn how to grow good weed. I live in a country where smoking and growing weed is illegal. I know people (yes, more than 1) who grow their own using best practices learned from YouTube (and others). pH, heat, nutrients, CO2, light levels, everything is monitored and tweaked. I've been in grow tents with 2 plants inside and grow houses with >50 (highly, highly illegal). It's really not THAT hard, especially if you can follow basic protocols (I.E probably most of HN). It's not exactly rocket science! There are (genuinely) illiterate people doing it as we speak.
- nom 5y ago
  it's easy to grow the plant, you can put seeds in your garden and it will grow. It's not easy to grow and then process (!) the good product people are used to.

staticassertion 5y ago

Very first sentence is me saying legalization is great and overdue. Feels like it shouldn't be a huge ask that people read the first sentence.

delusional 5y ago

> It reminds me of Joe Rogans bit about how in order to buy this harmless plant you have to interact with a criminal. Oh, and commit a crime. Legalization is 100% the right thing. I'm all for legalization but that's just a really bad take. The whole point with it being criminalized is that you SHOULDN'T buy the plant. Anyone pro criminalization would also probably not call it "harmless". Making it inconvenient and illegal is the point.

voisin 5y ago
I think most people pro criminalization simply want to control others. There is objectively far more damage caused by alcohol and I have yet to meet anyone that wants to criminalize cannabis and alcohol.
- cameldrv 5y ago
  Go to Utah sometime.