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This is really the worst kind of shit. Destroy food so they can charge more, while so many starving people could use that food. I've heard it a million times,

This is really the worst kind of shit. Destroy food so they can charge more, while so many starving people could use that food. I've heard it a million times, but it'll never stop shocking me to here about this idea: Keeping market value up is more important than reducing starvation.

gruez 5y ago
But that happens in the US as well? See all the stories about farmers dumping milk during the pandemic.
- dylan604 5y ago
  I don't think the comment you replied to was saying it's only bad because Canadian. They were stating every time they hear about food being destroyed it pisses them off. Doesn't matter if it is US, Canada or a dictator doing it in front of the people that were hoping to receive it. It's a shit move. However, let's not forget the logistics of getting the food to locations it was never thought about getting to when it was "made". Farms pretty much know where their food is going to be sold when it comes time for harvest. Food like milk definitely has an expiration factor as well. So if American farmers can't sell their milk normally and have never tried to arrange for it to be sold elsewhere, getting it to elsewhere before expiration isn't as easy as one might think.
  - gruez 5y ago
    >I don't think the comment you replied to was saying it's only bad because Canadian. They were stating every time they hear about food being destroyed it pisses them off. But if you're against food waste, shouldn't you be supporting supply management (ie. preventing excess production)?
    - dylan604 5y ago
      You state this like I'm not, but this is just as complex and complicated issue. Do you pay farmers to just not grow anything in exchange for not over producinng? We kind of already do that in the US. Do you legislate that any producer must have primary buyers as well as secondary/tertiary buyers lined up to ensure never wasting the product? Do you legislate that any one farmer is only allowed to produce X amount of whatever, or state that only X amount of product can be produced annually in total, so put you bids in now for a stake? Do you take the farmer for any crop that is destroyed to discourage over production? Or you can do a startup to disrupt farming with a way to preserve food so it never spoils (a la Twinkies). Good luck selling that product.
    - hluska 5y ago
      Judging by the naïveté of this comment, I don’t think you’ve ever been involved in agriculture at scale. Preventing excess production is extremely difficult.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
  I thought the milk destruction during the pandemic happened because the processing facilities for the milk were closed and there was no way otherwise to use the raw milk? I.e. we can't stop producing it, because cows need to be milked, but raw milk is useless without further processing.

gruez 5y ago

But that happens in the US as well? See all the stories about farmers dumping milk during the pandemic.

dylan604 5y ago
I don't think the comment you replied to was saying it's only bad because Canadian. They were stating every time they hear about food being destroyed it pisses them off. Doesn't matter if it is US, Canada or a dictator doing it in front of the people that were hoping to receive it. It's a shit move. However, let's not forget the logistics of getting the food to locations it was never thought about getting to when it was "made". Farms pretty much know where their food is going to be sold when it comes time for harvest. Food like milk definitely has an expiration factor as well. So if American farmers can't sell their milk normally and have never tried to arrange for it to be sold elsewhere, getting it to elsewhere before expiration isn't as easy as one might think.
- gruez 5y ago
  >I don't think the comment you replied to was saying it's only bad because Canadian. They were stating every time they hear about food being destroyed it pisses them off. But if you're against food waste, shouldn't you be supporting supply management (ie. preventing excess production)?
  - dylan604 5y ago
    You state this like I'm not, but this is just as complex and complicated issue. Do you pay farmers to just not grow anything in exchange for not over producinng? We kind of already do that in the US. Do you legislate that any producer must have primary buyers as well as secondary/tertiary buyers lined up to ensure never wasting the product? Do you legislate that any one farmer is only allowed to produce X amount of whatever, or state that only X amount of product can be produced annually in total, so put you bids in now for a stake? Do you take the farmer for any crop that is destroyed to discourage over production? Or you can do a startup to disrupt farming with a way to preserve food so it never spoils (a la Twinkies). Good luck selling that product.
  - hluska 5y ago
    Judging by the naïveté of this comment, I don’t think you’ve ever been involved in agriculture at scale. Preventing excess production is extremely difficult.
asdfasgasdgasdg 5y ago
I thought the milk destruction during the pandemic happened because the processing facilities for the milk were closed and there was no way otherwise to use the raw milk? I.e. we can't stop producing it, because cows need to be milked, but raw milk is useless without further processing.