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Quote from the article: "The professor went on to explain that the relationship of trust had already been strained, because Gerber had «lost his temper» during

Quote from the article: "The professor went on to explain that the relationship of trust had already been strained, because Gerber had «lost his temper» during a conversation a year earlier, and had told her that he no longer wanted to continue his doctorate at St. Gallen in any form, and no longer needed her as a doctoral supervisor."

Marvin_Martian 5y ago
Thats not evidence. That is just a claim made by the professor, which is denied by the former student and which, according the the article, is not reflected in the tone of the emails exchanged at this time, either.
- queuebert 5y ago
  Isn't eye-witness testimony considered evidence? Maybe the professor is lying, true. But also professional emails tend to be more cordial than in-person conversations. In terms of motives, the student has more motive to lie than the professor, since the professor has nothing at stake.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    The student has factual evidence, the emails. > Isn't eye-witness testimony considered evidence? C'mon.
  - ablearcher83 5y ago
    > "Ultimately, it may even turn out that I won’t be able to get a visa to China because of you. This is definitely going too far, and I would have to end our advisory relationship" At this point, you're misrepresenting the article completely.
- lixtra 5y ago
  The nice tone of the professor’s emails (after the run-in) could be also proof of her goodwill. While student showed his lack of self control on twitter. This is just a different aspect of the same facts.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    > The nice tone of the professor’s emails (after the run-in) could be also proof of her goodwill. What was nice about it? > student showed his lack of self control on twitter I don't see a lack of control on Twitter. The student wasn't talking to the professor, and there is nothing inappropriate about their Twitter comments as reported, beyond the cartoon which IIRC the advisor didn't cite.
romwell 5y ago
I'd trust an email record over he-said / she-said claims. "Losing temper" is quite vague; and evidently, it didn't warrant terminating the relationship until the tweets happened. Let's not pretend the timing was a coincidence. The relationship was clearly terminated because of the tweets, which has nothing to do with the professor.
wolverine876 5y ago
That was after the fact, with no evidence, after Gerber had contested the separation. The emails contemporaneous with the events clearly show differently.

Marvin_Martian 5y ago

Thats not evidence. That is just a claim made by the professor, which is denied by the former student and which, according the the article, is not reflected in the tone of the emails exchanged at this time, either.

queuebert 5y ago
Isn't eye-witness testimony considered evidence? Maybe the professor is lying, true. But also professional emails tend to be more cordial than in-person conversations. In terms of motives, the student has more motive to lie than the professor, since the professor has nothing at stake.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  The student has factual evidence, the emails. > Isn't eye-witness testimony considered evidence? C'mon.
- ablearcher83 5y ago
  > "Ultimately, it may even turn out that I won’t be able to get a visa to China because of you. This is definitely going too far, and I would have to end our advisory relationship" At this point, you're misrepresenting the article completely.
lixtra 5y ago
The nice tone of the professor’s emails (after the run-in) could be also proof of her goodwill. While student showed his lack of self control on twitter. This is just a different aspect of the same facts.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > The nice tone of the professor’s emails (after the run-in) could be also proof of her goodwill. What was nice about it? > student showed his lack of self control on twitter I don't see a lack of control on Twitter. The student wasn't talking to the professor, and there is nothing inappropriate about their Twitter comments as reported, beyond the cartoon which IIRC the advisor didn't cite.

romwell 5y ago

I'd trust an email record over he-said / she-said claims. "Losing temper" is quite vague; and evidently, it didn't warrant terminating the relationship until the tweets happened. Let's not pretend the timing was a coincidence. The relationship was clearly terminated because of the tweets, which has nothing to do with the professor.

wolverine876 5y ago

That was after the fact, with no evidence, after Gerber had contested the separation. The emails contemporaneous with the events clearly show differently.